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re: Power grid goes down Nationwide for a month

Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:25 am to
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:25 am to
quote:

What supplies would you need the most?


Clean drinking water. Nothing else matters if you don't have this.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38671 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 12:26 am to
Worse in July assuming you are in the south. It's easy to wear more clothes and keep warm in January. I have a berke filter so water isn't an issue. Between the food in the freezer I would could and eat on for a week and canned food, I would be ok. I could also shoot squirrels, which I already do to keep them out of my attic, and either eat them or barter with them for other stuff. I probably do need to beef up my ammo supply.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13563 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 4:05 am to
Without immediate outside aid, it could potentially end this country for good. The biggest question is do we as a general population know how long the grid is down, know why it went down, and do we have any faith in it being restored in a timely manner? If we don’t know the answers to those questions then chaos and panic would start immediately. We are such fricking pussies now, look at the lessons we just learned during covid. Every man will be for himself and his immediate family and cults and clicks will form immediately, if there is actually a means to transport and assemble. Look at how fast people lost their shite over Covid and panic bought toilet paper. Now apply that mindset to water and food. I would bet that of the approximate 350 mil people in this country, 340-345 could not function for one week without power. That’s due to lack of preparedness (guilty), lack of knowledge, lack of resources and lack of resourcefulness. How many people do you know can start a fire without some type of fire starting aid? I know maybe 5-6 including myself. How long would it take the average household to run of out water on hand? No water is coming out of your pipes. Most people have a fairly stocked pantry that can supply their immediate family for a few months, but that is assuming there is a way to cook food without using gas or electricity. It would absolutely be vastly more beneficial for this to happen in the winter rather than the summer because most people would be able to preserve whatever frozen food they have in their freezer by keeping it outsdie whereas in the summer that’s gone after 36 hours or so and only if you don’t open the doors at all.

This also means there is no law and order. Martial law will take place immediately. Panic riots will start and looting at grocery stores within 24 hours will get deadly violent. Without any communication from government (and even if there was communication from our government, could you trust it?? Again, see Covid) and people being left in the dark, fear and anxiety would resort to people being savage and prey on the weak almost immediately.

If this is an isolated event to only our Nation (aka China shuts down our grid) then we will be invaded while we are weak. The only thing to stop it would be our allies and this would immediately lead to WWIII. We have too many resources within our military with communications and firepower to allow ourselves to be invaded, but if there ever was a time it would be where there is anarchy and chaos amongst our entire nation.

Someone mentioned Katrina in a tongue and cheek comment earlier in this thread, but read “No Ordinary Heroes” by Dr. Demaree Inglese. That happened in less than a week. Now apply that to the entire country.
Posted by MSTiger33
Member since Oct 2007
20376 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 4:32 am to
Propane. Lots of propane
Posted by Pepperoni
Mar-a-Lago
Member since Aug 2013
3485 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 4:56 am to
Bunch of stored food and booze
Acreage
well with pump on solar power
pond
Argentinian cheerleaders
in July
Posted by liz18lsu
Naples, FL
Member since Feb 2009
17302 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 5:13 am to
Pretty sure I would stay put and hide in the attic if need be, assuming violence. But, I don't really drink water, and there is a pond behind me, I can fish (sushi, anyone?) and have the means to walk to a nearby river.

In the proposed scenario, is going to the nearby grocery store and getting some water ok if you leave $20 on the checkout?
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113939 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 5:33 am to
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Being in Louisiana; I would prefer January. Sure, it could be cold but most likely nothing major that lots of blankets couldn’t help with.


It would be cold for a week and a half then unseasonable warm for 7 days after then rain for about 4 days straight then wake up one day in the 70s and by noon it will be in the 40s.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18614 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 5:57 am to
quote:

What supplies would you need the most?


An ability to filter water to make it drinkable. A person could life the month with minimal nutrition (even non at all) but they are dead in about 3 days without water.

quote:

Would it be worse in July or January?


Depends on location to some extent. A month with no power in the mountains of Montana in January is different than in Louisiana. Reverse that for July.

My biggest need would to be out of any major city. By day 5 or 6 without power the cities are going to be jungles. I can survive pretty much anywhere as long as I’m not having to kill people for trying to take what is mine.
Posted by ItNeverRains
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Member since Oct 2007
25433 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 6:06 am to
quote:

Backup generators would be useless.


What? Some of us have enough propane to run generator for months non stop. I also picked up the little 500W yeti goal zero, highly recommend it, nice to have during small outages. Already have whole house water filtration system with UV filter. Easily have 3-4 months food at all times. My next door neighbor owns a gun store in Nashville, he has shooting range in his basement. We have more ammo, long and short range options than anyone coming our way. I stocked up on antibiotics during Covid. Have access to stocked pond as well and the Natchez Trace is my backyard. I think the cities would be ravished, the suburbs would be chaos, and the rural areas would be torn as when it would be acceptable to say I told you so.

Edit - I’d prefer January. The cold would limit travel and lessen the likelihood of me having to fend off city folk
This post was edited on 11/25/22 at 6:56 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260206 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:02 am to
Not much, we have our own system.
Posted by Polycarp
Texas
Member since Feb 2009
5564 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:15 am to
Wouldn’t know. In TX we have our own grid.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20882 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:25 am to
Solar panels an a power wall.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26179 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 7:30 am to
quote:

In TX we have our own grid.

Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16893 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:06 am to
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Rice, beans, guns, bullets


Might want to rethink the rice and beans as they take too much fuel to cook.

Get oatmeal instead.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
124045 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:28 am to
Long pig seasoning
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7113 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:40 am to
Supplies would be the least of your worries. If it happened everywhere it would become survival fittest quite quickly. There is no way you can compare it to a hurricane power outage. Local power outages come with information, supplies, help, and the knowledge it’s temporary. Nationwide power outage comes with mass hysteria, especially in major cities.
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43505 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 8:49 am to
quote:

Supplies would be the least of your worries. If it happened everywhere it would become survival fittest quite quickly. There is no way you can compare it to a hurricane power outage. Local power outages come with information, supplies, help, and the knowledge it’s temporary. Nationwide power outage comes with mass hysteria, especially in major citi


yeah no doubt. would be mass hysteria.
Posted by G2160
houston
Member since May 2013
1750 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:34 am to
Has anyone asked how we’d poop with no wifi?
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
16986 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:45 am to
Beer and lots of it.

Steak and chicken

Rice, beans, and potatoes

Bread and salad.

I would enjoy my month off with that
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260206 posts
Posted on 11/25/22 at 9:47 am to
quote:

Supplies would be the least of your worries.


So would credit cards, inflation would go through the roof for cash sales.

Everyone would be poor very quickly.
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