re: Portugal bans employers from contacting staff outside of office hours

This is true. My employees have learned the time that I open my eyes in the morning and started hammering me with problems. Now I started a rule, unless it’s an emergency, don’t call until 6am

Some businesses are open 24/7 …where do you draw the line there?

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Inb4 someone comes in here bragging about how much unpaid overtime they work as if that's a mark of achievement

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Dude. In my 20 years in the real world, there are always those co-workers.

They never take a day off. They work every weekend. They work till 9pm most nights. Blah blah blah.

I've worked an average of 32 hours a week for 20 years. Either they're lying or they're stupid.

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Any phone call or email sent after hours should be an hour minimum OT for the recipient.

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Do you give an hour back when you make a personal call during work?

What about when you’re on this site?

Hypocrite

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So whats considered after work hours?

Because if i work at waffle house, there are no after hours.

this is just more progressive bullshite not based on the realities of the world.

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Subtle “I work at Waffle House” humble brag

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Dude. In my 20 years in the real world, there are always those co-workers.

They never take a day off. They work every weekend. They work till 9pm most nights. Blah blah blah.

I've worked an average of 32 hours a week for 20 years. Either they're lying or they're stupid.

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As a business owner I work close to those kind of hours but it's my choice, I directly benefit from it and I don't ask anyone who works for me to do it. I wouldn't work anywhere that required it and it shouldn't be asked except in unusual, rare situations. Employers do it because their employees put up with it and they can get away with it. If your boss has to harangue you at home that's an indication of something broken within the department and they should work on fixing it.

Before WWII a typical workday was 10 hours, 6 days a week with maybe a half day off on Saturdays. That's not the norm anymore. Employees being in call 24/7 shouldn't be either.

Yeah, everyone complaining in this thread would throw a fit if company said they could not read a personal text, answer a personal call or check tiktok during working hours.

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What happens if you’re a salaried employee (so no OT) and are given a stipend to have your phone on 24/7?

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Exactly. My cellphone is owned by the company I work for so if they call I have to answer it.

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Dude. In my 20 years in the real world, there are always those co-workers. They never take a day off. They work every weekend. They work till 9pm most nights. Blah blah blah.

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I get what y’all are saying. But I recently watched an interview with Jimmy John guy, and he basically never took off and barely paid himself. He’d work open to close in his stores. And he started all of this at 18.

Now the dude makes more money than everyone on the OT.

There are people that do benefit from the hard work.

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et what y’all are saying. But I recently watched an interview with Jimmy John guy, and he basically never took off and barely paid himself. He’d work open to close in his stores. And he started all of this at 18.

Now the dude makes more money than everyone on the OT.

There are people that do benefit from the hard work

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Sure, when you have an ownership stake. In that case, knock yourself out. But if you're a salaried employee, being overly accommodating is, I would argue, counterproductive. It gets you labeled as a pushover, consciously or subconsciously. And that's never a good thing for your employer to think about you. If you don't mind working crazy hours you won't mind being passed over for that promotion or raise. Give them a solid day's work, go the extra mile when it makes sense, but don't let them walk all over you