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re: Pornhub Will Show Its 75 Million Daily Visitors Why Net Neutrality Matters
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:02 am to Breesus
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:02 am to Breesus
It's a complete troll job at this point. If he truly believes what he's spouting, he's as dumb as you can get. I'm out of this until someone intelligent is pro throttling.
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:03 am to Rize
Xnxx is also pretty legit
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:04 am to FalseProphet
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It's a complete troll job at this point. If he truly believes what he's spouting, he's as dumb as you can get
Totes
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'm out of this until someone intelligent is pro throttling
Samesies
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:06 am to Breesus
Success!
I'm sorry I don't agree that's it's a doomsday if things become more private.
I'm sorry I don't agree that's it's a doomsday if things become more private.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:09 am to baldona
You don't get it and you won't. I almost feel bad for your level of ignorance.
Amazon, Netflix, Google, Spotify, etc... would likely not exist today without the internet being open and neutral like it has been.
It allows for innovation and consumers to choose the winners and losers.
You want to allow the ISPs to choose the winners and losers.
Amazon, Netflix, Google, Spotify, etc... would likely not exist today without the internet being open and neutral like it has been.
It allows for innovation and consumers to choose the winners and losers.
You want to allow the ISPs to choose the winners and losers.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 8:16 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:16 am to baldona
I'm sorry but you are out of your element here. From your comments, you are arguing on a topic you don't even fully understand my man.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:28 am to RobbBobb
For as easy as they explained it, I don't understand how you just completely miss the point. There is no way to spin removing net neutrality as a good thing.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:30 am to Breesus
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What city do you live in? Right now, how many ISPs can you choose from and what are the company names?
Lafayette
LUS Fiber
Cox
Att
I assume there are more but don't really know
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:31 am to Breesus
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Similarly, if Cox and AT&T allows only their own branded streaming to be high speed and they throttled Netflix and Hulu to unwatchable slow loading they would kill those sites.
None of this would be an issue if the government didn't restrict ISP, or the roads in your analogy.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:40 am to seawolf06
How many people currently only use one provider? Seriously anyone know that number?
I have 3: cell, home, and work. All within 15 miles.
Secondly, again this is a business decision. If you screw clients there is eventually an effect to business. I'm not even sure every ISP would restrict on the levels you guys are worried about.
If I can't get Hulu but I can get better Netflix and Cox on demand, we'll all be damned my life is over!!
I have 3: cell, home, and work. All within 15 miles.
Secondly, again this is a business decision. If you screw clients there is eventually an effect to business. I'm not even sure every ISP would restrict on the levels you guys are worried about.
If I can't get Hulu but I can get better Netflix and Cox on demand, we'll all be damned my life is over!!
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:41 am to baldona
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I'm sorry I don't agree that's it's a doomsday if things become more private.
Would you be opposed to power companies becoming more private? Would you really want an entirely different company come hang or bury lines all of your city, and then build a plant to try and energize those lines, thinking this would somehow be a cheaper service?
Further, the reason power sources like propane and especially solar aren't being used, is that they are expensive, and it would particularly impact a poor state like LA (we have some of the very cheapest rates in the entire country).
The whole idea of regulation, is a social contract. For the right to be the exclusive provider, you must provide the same level of access to everyone in your jurisdiction.
If the above weren't true, America would have never left the cities and we wouldn't be at all the place we are today. To use your analogy, the horses wouldn't have led to as many cars, there wouldn't be the need.
The Internet is a public utility, in terms of how it is provided to you. It is very costly and disruptive to infrastructure to have multiple systems.
ETA: Like you, I don't have a strong opinion on net neutrality. However, I do have a strong opinion that government regulation has its place in public utilities. The cost of providing the service is incredibly high, and taxpayers would be responsible if things don't go as planned
Parts of Texas are deregulated for energy and it is kind of a mess
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 8:46 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:44 am to Breesus
I didn't understand the net neutrality issue until I read your analogy. Thanks! 
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:49 am to OceanMan
I do have access to propane, solar, etc. I choose the power company because of cost, but that could soon be changing right? While you say public electricity is a 'good thing' it actually could be on the verge of not being a good thing. Anyone currently moving heavily toward solar is finding that out.
Just like I currently would have access to 3-4 ISP's.
Again, no one has proven with a fact that if the laws were to change our internet usage would change completely.
I liken this to Uber. Who the hell took a taxi 10 years ago? I've taken more Uber's in the past year than I have taxi's in my life. Taxi's were basically government controlled as terrible, not to mention expensive.
Net neutrality restricts innovation and development because there is no need for competition. Any one provider provides all you need. Solar is becoming more of an option actually, and just the same OTA internet usage will be over time.
No I'm not a professional in this area, I have seen government involvement in private enterprise be proven to fail almost every single time.
Just like I currently would have access to 3-4 ISP's.
Again, no one has proven with a fact that if the laws were to change our internet usage would change completely.
I liken this to Uber. Who the hell took a taxi 10 years ago? I've taken more Uber's in the past year than I have taxi's in my life. Taxi's were basically government controlled as terrible, not to mention expensive.
Net neutrality restricts innovation and development because there is no need for competition. Any one provider provides all you need. Solar is becoming more of an option actually, and just the same OTA internet usage will be over time.
No I'm not a professional in this area, I have seen government involvement in private enterprise be proven to fail almost every single time.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 8:51 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:54 am to SG_Geaux
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Or they can start bundling website just like the channel packages we have now.
Jesus, that would be a fricking nightmare.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:57 am to Breesus
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Imagine if the government allowed certain car brands to purchase lanes on the interstate. I.E. If you drive a Ford you can go 80 mph but if you drive a Toyota you can only go 20 mph.
Would anyone buy Toyotas?
You stole my fricking analogy. I swear that's mine verbatim on Alexa's Husband's Post about this a few weeks ago.
Orrrr, it's just a very easy to understand analogy and you and me are just similar thinkers.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 8:57 am to CCTider
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Yep. I'm fairly liberal. But I didn't like a lot of things he did. This is one thing that Obama did that was great.
You should probably research the details of net neutrality that was passed. It was crony capitalism at its finest. I don't think anyone who claims to be "liberal" would actually support the net neutrality bill.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:02 am to seawolf06
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None of this would be an issue if the government didn't restrict ISP, or the roads in your analogy.
Wut
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:06 am to baldona
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Net neutrality restricts innovation and development because there is no need for competition. Any one provider provides all you need.
Dude you have that completely arse backwards. Not having Net Neutrality will allow the ISPs to completely kill competition if they choose to.
There is no way to 100% prove that will happen. It is the fact that doing away with neutrality opens the door and makes it possible for it to happen that scares people.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 9:10 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:07 am to baldona
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While you say public electricity is a 'good thing' it actually could be on the verge of not being a good thing. Anyone currently moving heavily toward solar is finding that out.
What do you mean by the last part?
And by good thing, I think that regulation is best for effective the investment, to be clear.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 9:08 am to SG_Geaux
He does not even understand the issues he is so adamantly arguing about.
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