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re: Pornhub Will Show Its 75 Million Daily Visitors Why Net Neutrality Matters
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:13 am to baldona
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:13 am to baldona
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It's ludicrous to think that people would not pay extra for net neutrality over being throttled.
Do you realize how many people only have access to one or two ISPs? Some of these companies already collude by not competing with each other in certain areas.
Look at Comcast that now owns NBC/Universal. This would give the freedom to make sure the content they own gets to you while content they don't does not. Or they can make you pay more for certain websites. Or they can start bundling website just like the channel packages we have now.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 7:16 am
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Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:17 am to Dr RC
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The ones leading the charge for net neutrality probably shouldn't be people who have a website that is built off of hosting stolen porn they had no part in creating.
Porn Purist over here!!
Stormy alter?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:18 am to crazycubes
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Companies not being "net neutral" will only lead to more people getting into the VPN game. It'll just be a cat and mouse thing.
Without Net Neutrality, Those companies can block access to any VPN they wish.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:19 am to baldona
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but someone will offer net neutrality while others don't.
WAT
If you live in an area that only has one ISP, which much of America does, you think a company will build all of the infastructure both physical and digital on the off chance that it can sway enough people from their old ISP to make a profit?
If the government allowed private companies to buy and control the interstate as they see fit in my hypo above, your solution is "who cares, someone will come along and build and entire new interstate?"
That's not how this works. And that's part of the problem. The general public does not understand the importance of net neutrality.
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Frankly, I'm not a fan of the government being involved in this at all. Let the free market work itself out.
The free market did work itself out. Do you know the story of the old Bell telephone companies?
It's not like there are four or five different cable providers. The providers dont even compete with each other. They got together and split the country into regions they don't cross.
You can't just up and build and entire new infastructure for an ISP in many parts of this country and its not like COX is just going to let some new company use all of its existing cable.
If you truly want the market to work the government would have to build and maintain all of the physical lines and infastructure and then let companies use those lines as they are we fit, however there is a whole slew of issues with that that basically makes it a non starter.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 7:22 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:20 am to SG_Geaux
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His analogy is 100% correct. Dumbass.
People pay more for conveniences all the time
Do you think 2 day shipping from Amazon is free? No, you have to pay them $99 a year for that. Do the perks from AMEX Black card come free. No it costs you $5K. Want better seats at a concert? Pay extra to join their fan club. Wanna pull up to a business and have them park your car. Sure, pay the valet
Its called doing business in America. Nothing is free. And getting premium service costs even more
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:21 am to SG_Geaux
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Without Net Neutrality, Those companies can block access to any VPN they wish.
Let them. And people will switch users. Sure some people only have access to 2 right now, but that will be changing more and more. Very few only have access to 1. You cut off access to farmers to some type of farming website and they'll drop you like a rock.
Again, I don't see it having the affect people worry it will. Furthermore, I really don't want the government involved here.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:23 am to baldona
You know how I know you're a rural, dyed in the woods, hick? Because you're talking about the free market on what has essentially become a public utility.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:23 am to RobbBobb
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Do you think 2 day shipping from Amazon is free? No, you have to pay them $99 a year for that.
Yes, but the usps, FedEx, and ups don't decide to delay all of amazons packages for a week while allowing Walmart packages to ship a day early.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:24 am to baldona
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Let them. And people will switch users
How? Explain how to me.
You can't just switch ISPs if only one ISP exists.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 7:25 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:25 am to Breesus
He's relying on future competition when he has no understanding of how it actually works.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:26 am to RobbBobb
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Its called doing business in America. Nothing is free. And getting premium service costs even more
No shite. I pay Cox for faster Internet. But all of my internet traffic flows at that faster speed. Cox doesn't pick and choose which websites go faster for its own business interests.
You missed the entire point of my analogy, made your own ignorant analogy, and then did an improper comparison.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:29 am to Breesus
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How? Explain how to me.
You can't just switch ISPs if only one ISP exists.
What percentage of people will this actually affect? Don't give me the Bs about 'most of america', maybe most geographically but not most of the population when most live in cities with multiple options.
Furthermore, why does one ISP exist for most? BecUse of net neutrality. Take that away, and it spurs competition.
I'm not against net neutrality, I'm against the idea that we need the government involved. Will it put us back 5-10 years in some areas to not have government involvement? Probably, but so what. Spur some competition.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:31 am to RobbBobb
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Its called doing business in America. Nothing is free. And getting premium service costs even more
I already pay my premium for Netflix. What happens when the ISPs decide they want to block Netflix because they want to have their own service?
As someone said, we have been down this road before with Ma Bell.
This post was edited on 6/15/17 at 7:32 am
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:32 am to Breesus
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If you live in an area that only has one ISP,
Dear God, you sound like my grandpa when cable was trying to get started. "Who wants to pay extra for TV stations in Chicago, or Atlanta, or Bristol, Conn?"
The market will work it out. Some guy will almost give away ISP if he thinks he can build a successful business off of it
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:33 am to CCTider
Road rage incidents on 7/12 will be ten fold of any other day
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:34 am to baldona
Holy. frick.
You think ISP's exist in isolation because of net neutrality? You're even more hopeless than I thought. Let me educate you: it took a lot of money to build out access to your internet. Companies weren't going to do that at all unless they were ensured a sustainable profit. The only way they would make a profit is without competition.
Thus, the public utility known as Internet was born.
And yes, it applies to the vast majority of the citizens (not geographical area) of the U.S.
No one is beating down the bushes to come offer me options in my rural hometown, and no one is beating down the bushes to build new lines in any city in our state.
You think ISP's exist in isolation because of net neutrality? You're even more hopeless than I thought. Let me educate you: it took a lot of money to build out access to your internet. Companies weren't going to do that at all unless they were ensured a sustainable profit. The only way they would make a profit is without competition.
Thus, the public utility known as Internet was born.
And yes, it applies to the vast majority of the citizens (not geographical area) of the U.S.
No one is beating down the bushes to come offer me options in my rural hometown, and no one is beating down the bushes to build new lines in any city in our state.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:34 am to RobbBobb
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The market will work it out. Some guy will almost give away ISP if he thinks he can build a successful business off of it
Do you realize what it costs to build out that infrastructure in a market? Why do you think Google has all but stopped rolling out its own fiber service?
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:35 am to CCTider
Never forget that Louisiana Senators John Kennedy and Bill Cassidy both sold your privacy down the river and voted to allow the sell of your internet history. These guys knew full well that 99+% of Louisiana citizens would be against this but they took money from ISPs and voted to allow the sell of your private information. Vote both of their asses out of office at all cost to send a message to the next assholes who think about selling your arse down the river.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:35 am to SG_Geaux
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already pay my premium for Netflix. What happens when the ISPs decide they want to block Netflix because they want to have their own service?
As someone said, we have been down this road before with Ma Bell.
Yeah and if your service buffers Netflix they will have to charge you less, who will pay a flat fee when someone gets it fast and others almost in watcheable? But you may get Hulu great, or cox video on demand.
Posted on 6/15/17 at 7:37 am to baldona
You're trolling right? You can't be that dumb.
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