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re: Pornhub Will Show Its 75 Million Daily Visitors Why Net Neutrality Matters
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:35 pm to Breesus
Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:35 pm to Breesus
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Cox cable controls the speed and "amount" of internet into your house depending on what you pay for. What travels across that network should absolutely not be any of their concern. Just like what devices use power is none of entergy's concern.
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Posted on 7/11/17 at 9:37 pm to CCTider
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If net neutrality hadn't existed 10 years ago, Pornhub's fate would have been in the hands of cable and wireless companies, Corey Price, VP at Pornhub told me over email.
Well, that's a lie. It didn't exist ten years ago, and Pornhub was still able to build an empire on stolen content.
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force people to pay more for certain sites.
That's a hell of a straw man. No ISP charged for certain sites before the rule went into effect 24 months ago.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:03 pm to CBDTiger
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For example, the Clean Water Act sounds great, but it's allowing the Corps of Engineers (the levee folks) to fine a farmer millions for tilling his land. Temporary puddles are navigable waters, a plow is a "point source," dirt is a pollutant, and by inadvertently plowing a few areas of his field that sometimes hold water (he avoided most such areas), he has polluted a wetland
Puddles are not considered Waters of the US. I swear to fricking christ you guys are retarded
The clean water act exempts nearly all normal farming operations in an ongoing agricultural operation. E.g. farmer joe can dam up a stream to irrigate crops or to water cattle without being subject to CWA regulations. This specific guy had an environmental consultant delineate wetlands on his property and fricking ignored him
Has overreach happened a few individual times? Sure. But an a-hole cop screwing up doesn't condemn the acual law/act he thought he was enforcing.
Also.. dirt is clearly a pollutant.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 10:29 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:06 pm to CCTider
Net neutrality is just another big government power grab. Give me free markets anyday. How is massive govt regulation of the internet gonna make it more free?
The FTC is perfectly capable of policing unfair trade practices by ISPs. Just like global warming fearmongering, this is a government solution where there was no problem. Remember the Fairness Doctrine?
Freeedom is a constant fight against the ignorant and shameless.
The FTC is perfectly capable of policing unfair trade practices by ISPs. Just like global warming fearmongering, this is a government solution where there was no problem. Remember the Fairness Doctrine?
Freeedom is a constant fight against the ignorant and shameless.
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:13 pm to holdem Tiger
If you're a small govt type, but aren't sure what to think about net neutrality, this is a good read:
National Review Article[/link]LINK
National Review Article[/link]LINK
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:13 pm to White Bear
Have you really been convinced that markets with few competitors and high barriers to entry are good for competition and growth? That sort of model drives down innovation and economic profit and drives up prices because firms become price setters and are in a position to set prices as high as possible without having to provide as good of a product. I swear you people took an intro to micro class, learned everything wrong, and came out thinking that you know something. You really need to look into the economics of utilities, which is what we are dealing with here. There's a reason these things tend to be highly government regulated.
This post was edited on 7/11/17 at 10:15 pm
Posted on 7/11/17 at 10:30 pm to Evolved Simian
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That's a hell of a straw man. No ISP charged for certain sites before the rule went into effect 24 months ago.
Interesting that no almost no ISP ISPs invested in modern infrastructure then either.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 12:46 am to bmy
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Interesting that no almost no ISP ISPs invested in modern infrastructure then either.
Except that they did. Between 2002 and 2008 the number of broadband access lines in existence in the US went from 16 million to 133 million. Access speeds have constantly improved and average costs have decreased.
As a percentage of GDP, investment in infrastructure in the US is more than every country in the world except for the UK and South Korea, and has been for years.
This rule changed basically nothing in the real world.
Posted on 7/12/17 at 7:17 am to Evolved Simian
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Except that they did. Between 2002 and 2008 the number of broadband access lines in existence in the US went from 16 million to 133 million. Access speeds have constantly improved and average costs have decreased
And compared to the rest of the world our internet is slower, out dated, and more expensive.
In fact, it wasn't until after the net neutrality ruling in 2015 that U.S broadband speeeds reached an average of 50 MB/s.
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