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re: Popeyes Sandwich Strikes a Chord for African-Americans

Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:23 am to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:23 am to
As long as you know blacks people didn’t invent fried chicken...
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:23 am to
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What all americans consider fried chicken, was an invention of West Africans.


Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:24 am to
John Edge, who wrote a book on fried chicken, says the modern iteration is due to West African seasoning techniques. Let me try to find the exact citation.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:25 am to
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Both arguments have been made by different people.



can you show me? because I haven't seen both argument made in this thread

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:25 am to
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Roaad countered that it wasn't fried chicken as we know it in the US, that being battered and seasoned, claiming that came from West Africa with the slaves.
Which is a fact.

It was made by West Africans. Not saying the recipe came with them, that is an unknown.
Posted by YouAre8Up
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:26 am to
Have there been any bans do to the topic at hand yet?
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:27 am to
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Freed blacks in the south were super poor, and often had to make do with less than ideal food.



The cuisine of the poor in the south was the same, black or white.

The notion that blacks had a different cuisine came from Yankees.
Posted by uway
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:27 am to
I mean if it took the slave trade to give us fried chicken, was the slave trade really a bad thing?

People are asking.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:27 am to
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link, please


You can cook one of the recipes yourself from Dictionarium Domesticum, printed in 1736.

The dish originated in England, having been developed from Scottish fried chicken tradition that made it over to the US as well. Battering and frying chicken was common on the british isles long before it came over to the colonies, and to say they didn't use seasoning is incorrect. Unless salt, pepper, cloves, etc. don't count as seasoning?
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 9:28 am
Posted by uway
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:28 am to
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The cuisine of the poor in the south was the same, black or white.



The great depression only affected southern blacks. All the other poor people continued to eat like kings.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:30 am to
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The notion that blacks had a different cuisine came from Yankees.
They made up a disproportionate number of the poor, and were generally the cooks for the upper class.

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The cuisine of the poor in the south was the same, black or white.
Meh, hard to make that case. I am descended from extremely poor Scots in the South. . .and you would NEVER confuse my ancestors diet with that of poor blacks in the same regions.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:30 am to
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John Edge, who wrote a book on fried chicken, says the modern iteration is due to West African seasoning techniques. Let me try to find the exact citation.



Some spices used in fried chicken might have come from west Africa, but there wasn’t some secret seasoning magic known only to west Africans.

Like most foods, it was an amalgam of the people that lived there in that time period with influences from different culinary traditions each contributing to the creation of the dish, much like gumbo
Posted by uway
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:30 am to
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You can cook one of the recipes yourself from Dictionarium Domesticum, printed in 1736


You left out the most important question. Was that book written by West Africans?
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:31 am to
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can you show me? because I haven't seen both argument made in this thread



I did in the very thread you just quoted?
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:31 am to
Was it battered and seasoned?

Also, slaves were all over the place in 1736.

You said before the slave trade

Words have meaning
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 9:32 am
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:31 am to
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I know it’s a stereotype that black people love fried chicken, but where did this nonsense about only black people being able to cook fried chicken come from?


Because the best fried chicken comes from sketchy corner stores and gas stations in predominately black parts of towns.
Posted by Shiftyplus1
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:32 am to
I thought for sure the article would focus on the numerous fights, assaults, and murders associated with black people having to wait to get one, not how a billion dollar member of a mega-conglomerate has produced a foodstuff reminiscent of authentic slavery/Jim Crow era African American cuisine. What a fricking joke.
Posted by Centinel
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:32 am to
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Was it battered and seasoned?


Yes.

Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:33 am to
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Yes.
Was it before the slaves invented it?
Posted by Caplewood
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:33 am to
ahh yes black people invented salt and pepper
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