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re: Poors Profiting from The Rona

Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:40 am to
Posted by Ghostface_Killa
Turtle Island
Member since Oct 2019
2302 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:40 am to
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No.


So you don’t pay taxes?
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
10041 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:41 am to
There will always be lazy, poor fricks in society. You can bitch and scream all you want but that won't change that simple fact.

Paying them off via cash transfers is cheaper and simpler than having them riot and disrupt society.

Keep them somewhat comfortable makes for a more peaceful society.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46761 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:41 am to
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We need to start looking upward and not downward.


It's almost like you can do both.


Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116489 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:42 am to
Poor people get a government break from an issue caused from the government = lazy do nothing assholes


Rich people getting a huge governmental breaks constantly and adding to their wealth because of it = wow such an innovative entrepreneur
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45434 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:44 am to
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Food stamps and unemployment benefits that you only get if you lost your job due to this pandemic?


He said they had 4 kids, assuming they are school age, now that they are ending school lunches, they are eligible for food stamps.

Based on the school's lunch program, not individual income based.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40527 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:45 am to
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Poor people get a government break from an issue caused from the government = lazy do nothing assholes


Rich people getting a huge governmental breaks constantly and adding to their wealth because of it = wow such an innovative entrepreneur


Quoted for truth
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
10041 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:46 am to
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Poor people get a government break from an issue caused from the government = lazy do nothing assholes


Rich people getting a huge governmental breaks constantly and adding to their wealth because of it = wow such an innovative entrepreneur



Nailed it. Your average OTer is just a temporarily inconvenienced millionaire or billionaire though.

When they work a little bit harder they will be rich like Bezos and Zuckerberg.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46761 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:46 am to
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Rich people getting a huge governmental breaks constantly and adding to their wealth because of it = wow such an innovative entrepreneur



Who are these rich people and what breaks are they constantly getting?

Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
116489 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:47 am to
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Who are these rich people and what breaks are they constantly getting?


how much time you got?
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
10041 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:47 am to
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Who are these rich people and what breaks are they constantly getting?


Oof. You are quite naive, eh?

Spend a year doing tax returns and you will see the abuses that go on.
This post was edited on 5/26/20 at 11:48 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:47 am to
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When they work a little bit harder they will be rich like Bezos and Zuckerberg.


What does this have to do with escaping poverty?
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
40527 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:48 am to
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Who are these rich people and what breaks are they constantly getting?





quote:

Centinel



oh you!
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46761 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:48 am to
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Oof. You are quite naive, eh?

Spend a year doing tax returns and you will see the abuses that go on.


So what are these abuses?
Posted by Ghostface_Killa
Turtle Island
Member since Oct 2019
2302 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:48 am to
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It's almost like you can do both.


Poor people have no effect on the economy other than committing crimes. I would rather them have a lil extra cash, rather than having to pay for them to be housed in a prison owned by billionaires.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:49 am to
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I have some trashy family members, they are always broke.

Wife in her 20's part time hairdresser
Husband - 30's Felon who does odd jobs painting and whatnot
4 kids

Drawing the following:
$1,500 a month in food stamps
$1,200 a FREAKING WEEK unemployment from the Government unemployment stimulus plan
$4,500 Stimulus Check

They are headed to the beach for the next 10 days, rented a car and a house.


Maybe that is exactly the way the program was intended to work. Give someone with a different value structure $10k and they put into a retirement account, kids college fund, or some other cash hoarding vehicle and the money is gone. Here the money goes right into the economy. The people who spend the largest portion of their income are the fuel that feeds the economy. People who save money suck cash out of the economy.
Posted by jclem11
Chief Nihilist
Member since Nov 2011
10041 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:49 am to
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What does this have to do with escaping poverty?


Pivoting again. The crux of my argument is that mutlinational corporations and the ultra wealthy do more material harm to the average OTer than welfare queens.

However, the OT loves to shite on welfare queens and suck off corporations though as the average OTer sees themselves as a temporarily inconvenienced Bezos.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:50 am to
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Rich people getting a huge governmental breaks constantly and adding to their wealth because of it = wow such an innovative entrepreneur


The entire tea party started around corporate bailouts and yall hated then.

Seems your angst on the issue depends solely in who's doling said money.

Your ilk has a very short mwmory.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
83171 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:50 am to
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Paying them off via cash transfers is cheaper and simpler than having them riot and disrupt society.



Not to count.. It would be expensive as hell to enforce the things so many here want in their utopian world. Things like entirely overhauling food stamps. There are so many millions of issues that would come up if they tried to limit what people can buy that it would cost us the taxpayers more to enforce it than it would to just slap $300/month on it and call it a day.

Just like employing people to investigate into welfare recipients closer than they already do. Its a lot of manpower and salaries and resources required to dig into that.

Like you said, sometimes it is just cheaper to shut them up.
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:51 am to
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Poor people deserve vacations at 30A too


I didn’t realize non-poors went to 30 A.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216685 posts
Posted on 5/26/20 at 11:51 am to
America baby............
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