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re: Poll: Americans moving away from religion

Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:33 pm to
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:33 pm to
I think religion is the worst concept that's ever been thought of by humans. It holds people back from really enlightening themselves. Religions enslave, kill and pull people apart from each other.
I don't judge people who believe in any religion. More power to them
Posted by Makinbacon
Member since Jul 2015
2791 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:33 pm to
The way religion and Christianity in particular upsets some of you people is disturbing.

I bet the threads posted on here asking fi prayers just melts you people.
It's weird. And annoying.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
46730 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:34 pm to
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Come the frick on.....



Muslims. Christians. Hindus. Sikhs. Jews.

We're one bad religious conflict from nuclear war. Especially between Pakistan/India. Sorry you're delusional.

Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36656 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:34 pm to
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Ok. Keep donating money to the church



I will, believe me, because the bible says I should.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:34 pm to
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The elegant Civil Union idea was the best way to go about this, but elegant and easy were not enough "winning." But now there are lines, scars, and this kind of debate will continue to rage.


This. But to be honest, I haven't heard much about this since SCOTUS. Well not near as much as it was before. Now it's the movement for Tranny's and the like. That will be the next big push.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 3:05 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38389 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:34 pm to
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This has been the agenda of Marxism all along. But they use the false principle of progressiveness.
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This was the same shite said during segregation and every other ugly episode. 'Were turning our back on our values blah blah Commubist agenda deep derp.' It's like stepping into a time machine back to the 1950s
Posted by ChargerDog91
Member since May 2012
4511 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:34 pm to
I see this thread has brought out the religious fundies. This has been a good read on this slow day at work.
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:35 pm to
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I just believe personal freedoms and liberty


I think most people would agree with this. If they don't they are extremist one way or the other.
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:35 pm to
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But once you find it, it eventually leads you out of religion, ironically.


See, this is where I strongly disagree with you. I know that I and many others find in our Catholic faith everything you describe here:
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Deep in their soul, people know there is more to life but they have been conditioned at birth to believe that true happiness in life comes from a great job, big house, social status etc. The mass of people have fallen for this lie hook, line and sinker and are constantly chasing after something that they will never find. There is a deeper reason for life and unless you come to tap that deeper essence you will never understand it


the evil "organized religion" CAN and DOES do that for millions of people
Posted by Kracka
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Aug 2004
42506 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:35 pm to
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Religion is declining in the US as the US declines as a country and society as a whole declines. Are they connected?


no
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86738 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:36 pm to
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I think most people would agree with this


most people only agree with freedom when they agree with that freedom
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38906 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:37 pm to
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One thing that is often lost in these debates on religion and morality is the vast majority (> 95%) of trashy degenerates in this country are Christians.


This would only be relevant if you compared ratio of trashiness between Christians, Atheists, and Agnostics. Until then, it means nothing.

There are more Christians in the country still so yeah, more trashy folks.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77215 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:39 pm to
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No I can think for myself. And Ive aways been very head strong, I just know there is a greater force beyond this small world. And it is God.


I don't argue with that. I just question how you came to believe that God is the God of Christianity and not some other religion. The truth is because you grew up in a Christian society in a Christian family. If you had grown up in Shanghai, you would be championing the tenets of Buddhism right now. If Saudi Arabia, Islam. People don't reason themselves into their religious faith. It is conditioned into them at birth based on when and where they are born. The question you need to ask yourself isn't "Is there a God" but "Why do I think that God is the God of the Christian belief system?". People don't reason themselves into their particular belief system and, therefore, you cannot very easily reason them out of it.
Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12489 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:39 pm to
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But when you die as an Athiest and you are wrong and there is a God and because you have denied him, then he denies you, then what? Wouldnt you rather accept God and get to know him before the end of your days? 

I take it that you don't worship the tens of thousands of other gods out there so what if one of those happens to be the real god? Then you'd be fricked. But you aren't worried right? Because all of those other religions seem silly to you. I feel the exact same way except I think your religion is silly too
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38906 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:40 pm to
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This. But to be honest, I haven't heard much about this since SCOTUS. Well not near as much as it was before. Now it's the movement for Tranny's and the like. That will be the next big push.


We never will. It's done. We lost the will to debate, to have compassion, and cooperation in most public debate. It's tragic how these things play out now because it's just going to get worse.
Posted by Freauxzen
Washington
Member since Feb 2006
38906 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:41 pm to
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Grim


You replied to me, but that isn't my quote. Just an FYI.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:42 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:42 pm to
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The way religion and Christianity in particular upsets some of you people is disturbing.

I bet the threads posted on here asking fi prayers just melts you people.
It's weird. And annoying


What? No.

To each his own. Most people I care about in this world are somewhat religious. Doesn't irk me at all.

When someone tries to say my close gay friend and his partner are sinners going to hell and shouldn't be allowed to marry at a courthouse, I get a little pissed off.

Posted by Grim
Member since Dec 2013
12489 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:42 pm to
Sorry, didn't think about that
Posted by Tiger Nation 84
Member since Dec 2011
36656 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:42 pm to
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I don't argue with that. I just question how you came to believe that God is the God of Christianity and not some other religion. The truth is because you grew up in a Christian society in a Christian family. If you had grown up in Shanghai, you would be championing the tenets of Buddhism right now. If Saudi Arabia, Islam. People don't reason themselves into their religious faith. It is conditioned into them at birth based on when and where they are born. The question you need to ask yourself isn't "Is there a God" but "Why do I think that God is the God of the Christian belief system?". People don't reason themselves into their particular belief system and, therefore, you cannot very easily reason them out of it.



I see where you come from, but it is a proven fact that Jesus Christ walked this earth and that he was sent by our God himself.
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
Nashville
Member since Sep 2005
77215 posts
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:43 pm to
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the evil "organized religion" CAN and DOES do that for millions of people


I guess I just prefer getting there without all of the BS religious dogma that comes with organized religion. Too much baggage for my tastes. Keep it simple. I find religion and religious dogma boring and closed minded for the most part. I like exploring and learning about the merging of scientific and spiritual principles, other culture's belief systems etc. and how that can help my faith to grow. Again, being raised as a Southern Baptist really turned me off to mindless religious dogma and closed minded thinking. If I had been raised Catholic and in a little more open minded and tolerant religious environment I might still be inclined toward religion a little more.
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