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re: Poll: Americans moving away from religion
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:28 pm to TheCaterpillar
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:28 pm to TheCaterpillar
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If your beliefs lead to close-minded legislation that is counter-productive and restricts basic freedoms for others, then no you shouldn't let them influence legislation.
I agree, in theory, and only if we could operate in a "pure," non-corrupt manner. But the impact of media, private money, and everything else that goes on, sometimes religion can be a shelter.
And you can hold this belief is you also belief we need to make ALL attempts to get corporate interests out of government policy. Many things influence legislation, and religion is probably the least of those concerns.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:28 pm to Tiger Nation 84
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. If we the christians are truly wrong about God and Jesus, when we die, at least we lived the right way and if we just go no where but to the grave then so be it. But when you die as an Athiest and you are wrong and there is a God and because you have denied him, then he denies you, then what? Wouldnt you rather accept God and get to know him before the end of your days?
....is this a troll? do people still use pascals wager as an argument these days?
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:28 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I despise Islam and don't consider it a legitimate religion, so no.
Well, it's the second most practiced religion in the world. I'd say that's pretty legit.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:29 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Tell me why the country is declining. Not saying it's not, just want to hear how do we can approach each issue individually to look for causes.
Religion teaches you to live for something outside of and greater than yourself. As religion loses influence in society, people become consumed with self-gratifying and self-destructive urges and desires driven by ego.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:29 pm to Tiger Nation 84
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To all athiest out there, I have a real question for you. If we the christians are truly wrong about God and Jesus, when we die, at least we lived the right way and if we just go no where but to the grave then so be it. But when you die as an Athiest and you are wrong and there is a God and because you have denied him, then he denies you, then what?
Oh, the argument that religions have been using for thousands of years. Such an easy way to control people that can't think for themselves.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:29 pm to TheCaterpillar
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vast majority of people are born with an innate morality
I don't think an infant is born with any morality. Its taught, and nurtured. And it's based on the belief systems of parents and those surrounding the infant.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:29 pm to TheCaterpillar
Broken government, national debt, no longer the world superpower, political correctness and society.
Rest of iceberg.
Rest of iceberg.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:29 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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Religion teaches you to live for something outside of and greater than yourself.
And without religion people can't do this on their own?
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:30 pm to TheCaterpillar
I wish I knew.
But our country is so far in debt; we will never get out of it. It's just going to get worse
But our country is so far in debt; we will never get out of it. It's just going to get worse
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:30 pm to TheOcean
No I can think for myself. And Ive aways been very head strong, I just know there is a greater force beyond this small world. And it is God. 
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:30 pm to TheCaterpillar
One thing that is often lost in these debates on religion and morality is the vast majority (> 95%) of trashy degenerates in this country are Christians.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:30 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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Well, this took longer than usual.
Yeah that is so absurd and so common. So many things wrong with it from a Christian perspective.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:31 pm to CidCock
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He wishes to keep religions (other than his own) out of government.
You can call it what you want. Atheism is a religeon, non-believers are a religion. Just like Jesus said, when 1 or more are gathered in my name I am there.... Dude wasn't playin around.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:31 pm to The Boat
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as the US declines as a country and society as a whole declines. Are they connected?
I would put more of the blame on corporate power and influence over governments economically and politically and the manner in which it has conditioned western humanity and society to believe that the only thing that matters in life is upward mobility and the consumption of more and more worthless stuff. Deep in their soul, people know there is more to life but they have been conditioned at birth to believe that true happiness in life comes from a great job, big house, social status etc. The mass of people have fallen for this lie hook, line and sinker and are constantly chasing after something that they will never find. There is a deeper reason for life and unless you come to tap that deeper essence you will never understand it. And I'm not talking about subscribing to this or that religion although they can certainly lead people to it. But once you find it, it eventually leads you out of religion, ironically.
This post was edited on 11/3/15 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:31 pm to Tiger Nation 84
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And it is God.
Ok. Keep donating money to the church
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:31 pm to TheOcean
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And on the verge of destroying the planet.
Come the frick on.....
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:31 pm to Tiger Nation 84
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To all athiest out there, I have a real question for you. If we the christians are truly wrong about God and Jesus, when we die, at least we lived the right way and if we just go no where but to the grave then so be it. But when you die as an Athiest and you are wrong and there is a God and because you have denied him, then he denies you, then what? Wouldnt you rather accept God and get to know him before the end of your days?
Hope I get to someone and change their mind/life.
I do like the throwaway "Hope," at the end.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:32 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Yeah that is so absurd and so common. So many things wrong with it from a Christian perspective.
What is wrong with it? Only 1 person can save you.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:33 pm to TheOcean
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And without religion people can't do this on their own?
People can, I'm sure. But often, I find they don't.
Posted on 11/3/15 at 2:33 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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One thing that is often lost in these debates on religion and morality is the vast majority (> 95%) of trashy degenerates in this country are Christians.
Right.
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