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re: Plane crash in Palm Beach County today
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:43 pm to Tyga Woods
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:43 pm to Tyga Woods
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The way you stay safe from that, is fly well around it. Not try to pick and choose a lucky route through it.
"Well around it" in this case could have been 500 miles.
I agree. Or not fly at all.
And still be alive.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:43 pm to RollTide1987
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Not only that, this storm built up very quickly and likely didn't appear as dangerous as it was until it was too late.
This storm also has all the characteristics of an embedded cell in already IMC conditions. So in the soup already their eyeballs looking at it towering in front of them was not working in their favor either.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:44 pm to The Boat
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The radar data on the plane is real time because it's coming from a plane mounted radar. But planes have x band radars, and x band wavelengths have a harder time "seeing through precip" and can become heavily attenuated in bad weather. They may have not seen what was in front of them.
Interesting, because that radar wouldn't have been scanning through heavy precip, but into it. Even in the direction of the cell that they flew into there was only moderate precip between them and it.
I do hate that people are using composite radar. Every one I've seen makes that cell look worse than what it was and like it blew up well before they got into it.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:45 pm to ILurkThereforeIAm
There's no way in hell I'm getting in any plane that has a 20 year old in the cockpit, male or female, copilot or whatever.
Whatever that charter company was out of their mind.
I wonder if whoever rented it had concerns and just went along with it to be polite
Whatever that charter company was out of their mind.
I wonder if whoever rented it had concerns and just went along with it to be polite
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:46 pm to The Boat
Probably Googling how to avoid a supercell downdraft up until the minute of impact. Many of these kids today are legends in their own mind.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:48 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
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To think a text changed this in any way is wild
Obviously the 30-second text didn't affect this, but it does raise questions about her focus during a time when she should have been completely locked in.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:48 pm to baldona
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The issue with this is that if that's the case, you avoid that weather. Again, its not a "pop up" as in there was blue sky all around. It was bad weather all around with a HIGH likely hood of a pop up thunderstorm.
Completely get what you’re saying but planes were landing at KDJT & KBCT at the same time.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:50 pm to genuineLSUtiger
I took a flight from ATL to BWi a few yrs ago on a now defunct airline (on a A321) and I swear one of the pilots couldn't have been more than 20. I made a comment to a flight attendant about how young he looked. she had no comment.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:51 pm to jbgleason
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I would be interested to see a Sully level pilot in the simulator work the reported flight characteristics and see how he does
Sully wouldn’t have been dumb enough to get himself in that situation in the first place.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:52 pm to Craft
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somebody reassure me that the big commercial planes should never go down in a storm cell or i’m driving everywhere from now on
Rest assured this incident is basically impossible for a commercial plane.
For starters, in the rare case of a loss of cabin pressure, a mask will fall from the ceiling above you. Place the mask over your nose and mouth then breath normally. Although the bag may not inflate, oxygen is flowing to the mask.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:53 pm to StansberryRules
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I wonder if whoever rented it had concerns and just went along with it to be polite
Refusing the flight would have them accused of sexism, ageism misogyny, and fired all while being streamed on IG live.
The only winner would've been Shane Gillis for taking the heat off him.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:53 pm to Huey Lewis
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somebody reassure me that the big commercial planes should never go down in a storm cell or i’m driving everywhere from now on
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Rest assured this incident is basically impossible for a commercial plane.
You're saying it's basically impossible for commercial planes to be taken down by storms?
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:54 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
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No. They made the decision and active turns. It’s not like they flew hundred of miles in a straight line from Texas not paying attention and just whoopsie into the cell. Text or no text decisions were being made in that cockpit. That’s the real question I have and why they decided that course vs going south, not they just accidentally ended up there being distracted by a text.
there is obviously not a direct correlation between a text ten minutes prior and the plane flying into the ground. but it does speak to her mindset and raises questions about what else she was distracted by.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:54 pm to RummelTiger
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You're saying it's basically impossible for commercial planes to be taken down by storms?
Pretty much. Did you know that in the case of a water landing, there is an emergency floatation device located under your seat?
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:55 pm to Ingeniero
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NTSB guy just said at the presser that there's evidence of break-up before impact when asked about the horizontal stabilizer
I mean, the Google machine says that airframe is built to go 530 MPH maximum
And I think I read that they are estimating the plane was exceeding 800 mph at impact
I’m amazed the wings were still attached
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:56 pm to Huey Lewis
Oh, you're being "funny"...
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:56 pm to The Pirate King
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questions about her focus during a time when she should have been completely locked in.
Really what it boils down to.
Phones nowadays are so addicting for some people the compulsion is too strong to resist.
Like a little rectangular demon in her pocket begging to get coon-fingered.
You see it now with people of all ages. The get the jitters and start jonesin' for they phone.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 1:01 pm to StansberryRules
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There's no way in hell I'm getting in any plane that has a 20 year old in the cockpit, male or female, copilot or whatever.
I find this absurd. Who would allow a 20yr old to pilot any plane for them? Wild.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 1:02 pm to FLBooGoTigs1
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At work so I can't take a deep dive
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