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re: Plane crash in Palm Beach County today
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:33 pm to sicboy
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:33 pm to sicboy
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The anti DEI warriors trying desperately to make this solely the woman's fault.
and the DEI white knights are desperate in the other direction
What is your point?
This is standard internet blather. You should leave if it bothers you.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:34 pm to Tiger Stadium 11
Older airframe with outdated radar equipment could have impacted their decision making. I have seen people on social media commenting on this. Not only that, this storm built up very quickly and likely didn't appear as dangerous as it was until it was too late.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:34 pm to KosmoCramer
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She shouldn't have been texting, that's obvious at this point.
I don't think any reasonable person would argue with you on that. But to suggest that a quick text doomed the plane is a stretch.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:35 pm to FutureCorridor49
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This is probably a dumb question but how do pilots spot potential bad weather and who decides the route to avoid it?
Are the radars and stuff on the planes sophisticated enough to give the pilots sufficient info, or is it a joint thing with ATC?
I'd be interested to hear some private plane guys say if they would have flown in this at all? Military and commercial jets are built different, but I think most private planes this is a simple no fly for basically all of south florida.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:36 pm to RummelTiger
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I have no clue, but do you know if there's some sort of lag on the radar in those planes? Are they looking at 5-minutes prior, or is it live radar?
The radar data on the plane is real time because it's coming from a plane mounted radar. But planes have x band radars, and x band wavelengths have a harder time "seeing through precip" and can become heavily attenuated in bad weather. They may have not seen what was in front of them.
Same science behind your TV dish not working in bad weather.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:36 pm to RollTide1987
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Older airframe with outdated radar equipment could have impacted their decision making. I have seen people on social media commenting on this. Not only that, this storm built up very quickly and likely didn't appear as dangerous as it was until it was too late.
The issue with this is that if that's the case, you avoid that weather. Again, its not a "pop up" as in there was blue sky all around. It was bad weather all around with a HIGH likely hood of a pop up thunderstorm.
The way you stay safe from that, is fly well around it. Not try to pick and choose a lucky route through it.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:37 pm to baldona
NTSB guy just said at the presser that there's evidence of break-up before impact when asked about the horizontal stabilizer
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:37 pm to The Boat
somebody reassure me that the big commercial planes should never go down in a storm cell or i’m driving everywhere from now on
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:38 pm to baldona
1) We always get so many wild theories on the OT right away.
2) As someone who knows very little about aviation, I wonder how the investigators figure out what happened in a case like this where there doesn't seem to be much wreckage left.
2) As someone who knows very little about aviation, I wonder how the investigators figure out what happened in a case like this where there doesn't seem to be much wreckage left.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:38 pm to The Boat
Thanks. Man, just a horrible situation.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:38 pm to RummelTiger
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They got real unlucky that the cell blew up at the same time they were heading into it.
Very obvious here. Having survived a recent helicopter flight in very similar conditions, this was explained to us in detail.
Pilot on the right has 22,000 hours time, some combat, he's watching for weather on an ipad and working the radio. Pilot on the left, 25,000 hours, is flying. Extreme turbulence is an understatement. Multiple people on the bird praying. We finally get out of it and the pilot says we're diverting to another platform an hour away instead of heading to Houma.
We waited out the storm there and talked to the pilots at length. Navigating pilot declined lunch, said he'd take a tranquilizer if they had one. Said it was the worst flight of his career. PIC said it was second worst.
Essentially they see a small storm on radar and decide the fly through it for two reasons. It's not bad, and the air is clear on other side. Well, it's severe beyond what the radar showed, and where the clear air is supposed to be is another storm we can physically see that's not even showing up on the radar. It was hell on earth and the worst 20 minute experience of my life.
when our actual flight path was overlaid with the actual radar, we were in a purple storm cell.
To conclude, the pilots got sent north and because of that were going to fly straight the the Bahamas. By all accounts they'd flown around the storm. A cell developed and enveloped their airplane. Conditions there created a "MAC tuck" and the worst case scenario transpired. The only right thing to do in all of that was ignore ATC or ask for a path out over the gulf until traffic subsided.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:38 pm to Craft
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somebody reassure me that the big commercial planes should never go down in a storm cell or i’m driving everywhere from now on
Whelp
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:40 pm to KosmoCramer
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Alleged distraction in the cockpit isn't a fault moments before/as critical errors are made that lead to unrecoverable decent?
No. They made the decision and active turns. It’s not like they flew hundred of miles in a straight line from Texas not paying attention and just whoopsie into the cell. Text or no text decisions were being made in that cockpit. That’s the real question I have and why they decided that course vs going south, not they just accidentally ended up there being distracted by a text.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:42 pm to Ingeniero
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NTSB guy just said at the presser that there's evidence of break-up before impact when asked about the horizontal stabilizer
What does "before" mean?
As in the plane was flying in weather but still with the horizon and lost the stabilizer, or the stabilizer was lost while they were already in a dive?
I'd say the former would be much more telling than the latter.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:42 pm to FutureCorridor49
If they have radar it shows clouds and weather systems. Also ATC is usually following the flight and advising routes. Then other pilots will call in areas to avoid. So listening to the fight center your in and monitoring a local (always two radios) you would usually know if you should divert.
Though weather can get worse fast and it's really hard to know exactly what warning they were given.
Though weather can get worse fast and it's really hard to know exactly what warning they were given.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:42 pm to tunechi
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It's crazy to me of all the places for her to crash in the world and the places she's flown, she crashed in her hometown/county
They say most car crashes happen within 3 miles of your home. Thats why I moved.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:42 pm to baldona
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The way you stay safe from that, is fly well around it. Not try to pick and choose a lucky route through it.
"Well around it" in this case could have been 500 miles.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:42 pm to Stevo
I’m looking through flightradar24 and looks like N92DJ flew in a similar area at a much lower altitude approx 12 min before and Allegiant 2968 at 20k feet just 2 min after.
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:42 pm to RummelTiger
Checking back in
Looks like the boyfriend wasn't the pilot. We got anymore info on who was the pilot yet? I mean this is the elephant in the room right?
At work so I can't take a deep dive
Looks like the boyfriend wasn't the pilot. We got anymore info on who was the pilot yet? I mean this is the elephant in the room right?
At work so I can't take a deep dive
This post was edited on 11/2/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 11/2/26 at 12:42 pm to Gee Grenouille
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To conclude, the pilots got sent north and because of that were going to fly straight the the Bahamas. By all accounts they'd flown around the storm. A cell developed and enveloped their airplane. Conditions there created a "MAC tuck" and the worst case scenario transpired. The only right thing to do in all of that was ignore ATC or ask for a path out over the gulf until traffic subsided.
Or not fly that day. That's why I don't think is being said enough. There's days, quite often, where private jets simply don't need to take certain routes.
This is likely one of them. If you can't avoid the weather enough to be safe, you simply can't fly that day. Its that simple.
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