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re: Plane collides with helicopter over Reagan International Airport; Looking in Potomac

Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:33 am to
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:33 am to
Jesus.

And now his entire team is gone.

Prayers for that kid.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:33 am to
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unless the helicopter was doing an all visual training


I know those guys need to know how to drive anywhere and everywhere, but that seems like a poor location to be riding around with the tech switched off.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:35 am to
IIRC, I think Atlanta does have a 6th. It might be used by the international flights.
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:39 am to
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Not sure what audio you heard. I heard one with helo calling seperation.
can you please post a link to the audio that you heard? I was referring to the audio on the first page of this thread.
Posted by carhartt
Member since Feb 2013
8272 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:41 am to
I’m late to the thread and this might have been discussed already. But I really don’t understand who approved a helo flight path that dissects a landing/departure lane of an international airport.
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:41 am to
Plane crashes like this are so spooky. I can’t help but wonder if the people on board became aware/terrified at least for a moment or died instantly with no awareness. Hopefully instantly

For those that may know, what would be the exact cause of death for those that died instantly?…. Fire?
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 8:45 am
Posted by tiger91
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:42 am to
GuyOn Fox is saying that the (idr what he called it exactly) flight avoidance system doesn’t work below 1000 ft — or maybe it automatically disengages.

Why?????
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:42 am to
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flight avoidance system doesn’t work below 1000 ft — or maybe it automatically disengages.



it works, the mode just changes
Posted by HeyCap
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:43 am to
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IIRC, I think Atlanta does have a 6th. It might be used by the international flights.

Just 5; typically 2 departure runways and 3 arrival, unless you want to land on the taxiway like Delta did back in 2009, then you could say ATL has 6!.
Posted by mylsuhat
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:44 am to
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GuyOn Fox is saying that the (idr what he called it exactly) flight avoidance system doesn’t work below 1000 ft — or maybe it automatically disengages.

Why?????
likely because of structures on the ground interfering
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:45 am to
Would it have gone off?

Like the the airplane pilots have any clue in their cockpit??
This post was edited on 1/30/25 at 8:46 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:45 am to
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No shite. He's trying to claim the chopper pilot mistook a plane taking off from the other end of the airport as his bogie.

The plane taking off was more than a mile to the right of the to the right of the Blackhawk. You have to be an idiot to think atc is telling you to stay behind a plane a mile to your right and heading away from you when you have traffic on approach ahead of you and to your left.

Another big issue is atc giving the Blackhawk instructions and not noticing he’s above 200.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:46 am to
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For those that may know, what would be the exact cause of death for those that died instantly?…. Fire?

Blunt force impact into the water at 150+ mph from 300 ft
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
19264 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:47 am to
Hegseth just said that even though it was a training flight, the crew was experienced. It was a routine training flight, not the training of a new guy.

Weird situation all around.
Posted by TimeOutdoors
LA
Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:47 am to
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One Russian figure skater was not allowed to board the flight as his dog was too big


Wasn't that an American figure skater?
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
88797 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:47 am to
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Would it have gone off?



that's the mode that changes, they could still see traffic on the scope but the TCAS would not trigger a resolution advisory(issue an avoidance command)
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:48 am to
My guess - trying to evade would probably stall/ crash the plane. They can't really do anything except land or start pouring on the power, which takes time, before they could maneuver anyway, right?
Posted by roobedoo
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Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:49 am to
I imagine chopper blades played a role if it tried to turn at the last moment.
Posted by IT_Dawg
Georgia
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:50 am to
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For those that may know, what would be the exact cause of death for those that died instantly?…. Fire?


For those onboard, I only hope to God their bodies went into shock with the initial collision and lost consciousness on the decent before BFT killed them on impact...
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/30/25 at 8:51 am to
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Just 5; typically 2 departure runways and 3 arrival,

Thanks. I wasn't entirely sure that there was a 6th.

quote:

unless you want to land on the taxiway like Delta did back in 2009, then you could say ATL has 6!

I remember that. What a shite show that was.
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