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re: People said that Constitutional Carry would turn Louisiana into the Wild West

Posted on 9/16/24 at 5:15 am to
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31588 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 5:15 am to
People also said that moving to unanimous jury verdicts would cripple the criminal legal system and all but ensure that no black person was ever convicted of a crime in Louisiana ever again.

People are very, very stupid, and will do whatever mental gymnastics necessary to defend a status quo that meshes with their already held ideology.
Posted by TigerSooner
Member since Nov 2023
3593 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 5:28 am to
Gonna need it if Crapmella wins the election.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
14397 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 5:54 am to
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It'd be nice if that is a nationwide law


It already is a nationwide law. The 2nd amendment.

Turns out, however, whole lot levels of government love to wipe their arse with the Constitution.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 6:04 am
Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19485 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:06 am to
It’s because they wanted to believe so much that some trump loving guy is gonna show up and start killing blacks folks
Posted by TigerGman
Center of the Universe
Member since Sep 2006
13459 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:14 am to
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People also said that moving to unanimous jury verdicts would cripple the criminal legal system and all but ensure that no black person was ever convicted of a crime in Louisiana ever again.


Ugh Hillar Moore's office has recently lost a couple of lock cinch murder cases because of this .

WBRZ

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than 90% for fifty years, so experts say the recent back-to-back acquittals of two men tried for murder after being prosecuted within the same month is highly unusual.

First, Kevin Dukes was acquitted in the murder of Julius Thomas on Aug. 2, and then 18 days later, Jarvis Lee Bowie was acquitted in the murder of Clarence Augustus.

LSU Law Professor Ken Levy says acquittals in these cases are as rare as they come.

"If this is a fluke or trend where defendants in two cases were acquitted, I think it's much more common for prosecutors to win their cases. To get two back-to-back acquittals strikes me as rare, but again, I don't know. It could have been a coincidence," Levy said.

Bowie's defense attorney, Alex Laird, says both Dukes' and his client's case had one thing in common: a tracking app called TraX.

"It's a very imprecise way of trying to pinpoint someone's location. It would try to say they're in a five-mile radius circle somewhere on a map. I think that it needs to be looked at, I don't think the state should be relying on TraX software," Levy said.

Professor Levy said if the app was being used in both cases as evidence, it could be a common denominator.

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"If juries aren't buying that an app is reliable and that are acquitting on that basis, there's your answer. I think that the lesson for the district attorney is to stop relying on that app for evidence because the jury isn't buying it," Levy said.

The District Attorney was not available to comment on the matter Wednesday.
Posted by LSU alum wannabe
Katy, TX
Member since Jan 2004
27576 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:21 am to
They say that everywhere.
Posted by WhiskeyThrottle
Weatherford Tx
Member since Nov 2017
6945 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:02 am to
quote:

The premise of needing a license to conceal carry is stupid anyways because the definition of concealed carry is that no one knows you're carrying.



Texas previously had a "printing" law as a part of the LTC. Before open carry, if someone could make out that you had a gun on your hip through your shirt, you were subject to have the policeman harass and ticket you. Fortunately we went to permitless carry and the concept of printing went away. Always thought that was a dumb rule. Most gun laws are redundant and not logical anyways.
Posted by LRB1967
Tennessee
Member since Dec 2020
22911 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:03 am to
Tennessee has had Constitutional carry since 2021. It has not turned our state into the Wild West either.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31588 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:04 am to
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Ugh Hillar Moore's office has recently lost a couple of lock cinch murder cases because of this . WBRZ

What? You need a unanimous verdict to convict or acquit. Both of those cases had unanimous verdicts to acquit.

The nonsense propaganda that a hung jury results in a verdict of acquittal needs to die.
Posted by Lutcher Lad
South of the Mason-Dixon Line
Member since Sep 2009
7125 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:10 am to
It all boils down to criminals with guns compared to law abiding citizens with guns or good vs. evil!
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
15031 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 7:17 am to
A far bigger problem occurs when people don’t exercise their constitutional carry right, and instead, leave guns in their car.

So many “illegal” guns on the street are stolen from vehicles. Vehicle burglaries are so high across the state that the police often don’t respond and rarely investigate. The only reason for a victim to even report a vehicle burglary is for insurance purposes, or to notify police of a stolen firearm.

Chances are you will do more work by filing a report, dealing with insurance, and repairing any damage, than the police will do investigating the burglary.
Posted by kennypowers
AR
Member since Mar 2009
615 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:02 am to
It's almost like creating laws that criminals already ignore won't solve the problem.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13432 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:05 am to
turn Louisiana into the Wild West
--Where bad guys are shot by good guys, and the good guys are treated like heroes?
I'm in
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106168 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:06 am to
IMO the benefit of CC wasn't so much having the license to carry but more so the public being educated at least to some degree on the laws surrounding carrying (i.e. castle doctrine, etc). But I'm of the opinion that morally if you carry you should make an effort to be educated about what you're carrying.
Posted by Stumpknocker
SWLA
Member since Mar 2021
787 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:14 am to
I wonder how many lives have been saved by OC?

Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19989 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:23 am to
quote:

somebody acting like a cowboy


well, the cowboy is usually the good guy. its the bandit you gotta worry about.
Posted by Masterag
'Round Dallas
Member since Sep 2014
19989 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:24 am to
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Leftists who don’t even understand how a gun works



they know how guns work, they just don't know how responsibility works
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
15979 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:28 am to
I have never been in favor of a law requiring legal citizens to have to be permitted to carry a gun “concealed”.

Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
54900 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:31 am to
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Glock needs to work on Apple/Google Pay integration. Tap my gun and done


I'm not buying a new terminal for that feature
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133590 posts
Posted on 9/16/24 at 9:34 am to
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Leftists who don’t even understand how a gun works
They don't even know which bathroom to use...
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