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re: Parents furious after Louisiana teacher misdiagnosed entire class with ADHD

Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Naked Bootleg
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:17 am to
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Why are teachers diagnosing ADHD?


This hits home because my son's 1st grade teacher AND the school counselor thought he had ADHD. The counselor already had a reputation. Parents of older kids in the neighborhood called her 'Lady Adderall.' Son is 18 now, does not have ADHD, and I'd still like to slap the shite out of both their faces for shaming my kid for being a normal boy when he was 6 or 7 years old.

When they first approached me about him "fidgeting a lot" and "disrupting class", I didn't know anything about ADHD so I went along with it. Eventually had him tested with a psychiatrist, negative - just a normal kid with a little anxiety/nervousness. Other parents had similar issues with various teachers and the counselor. They were both gone the next year, not sure if fired or moved on.

Reflecting back on it, the entire elementary school had one teacher over 35 years old. Most are fresh out of college. I guess they come in with a utopian idea about wonderful little compliant angels. Girls are much easier to work with at that age, but the boys are just that - boys. Recess was only 25 minutes, and 10 minutes of that is getting the kids lined up to go outside and come back in. It's like, wtf do you expect? They weren't equipped to handle a classroom half-full of boys. Those bitches would have had ALL the boys on meds if they could've.

Sorry for long post, this topic still stings
Posted by Jcorye1
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:18 am to
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So damn stupid. It happened to my older son. My ex-wife swore he had ADD and found a quack school counselor to write something up and she took it to the doc and got him on meds without me knowing. It took a year and me paying out the arse for a full evaluation to confirm what I already knew. It was a scam. There are true ADHD cases out there, for sure, but I'd venture to say 80% of the so called diagnoses are behavioral, not medical issues.



Too many parents nowadays are diagnosis shopping because they want their kid to be special. I know parents that are rooting for their kid to be gay, rooting for their kid to be somewhere on the spectrum, or rooting for their kid to have something else. I have zero issues with being gay, but outright rooting for it is kind of insane to me.
Posted by luvdoc
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:20 am to
"Very few people have access to the pamphlets I do"
Posted by TexasTiger1185
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:20 am to
Does a teacher writing “ADHD confirmed” hold any weight at all? I sure as hell wouldn’t accept a diagnosis from a Kindergarten teacher.

Is ADHD even an issue in kindergarten?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:21 am to
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why are teachers diagnosing anything? this is worse than nurses diagnosing stuff.



Because these people have been told that they're more important to society than anyone else
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:21 am to
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Since when do teachers diagnose ADHD?


They don't, that's just a screening to see if a kid needs to be tested for ADHD. Sort of like how the Lions Club does eye screening to see if you kid has a possible vision issue. Then they go to the eye doctor to be diagnosed.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 10:03 am
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:22 am to
I don't know what HD is but the doctor says I have 80 of 'em... VROOOOOM!!
Posted by John88
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:27 am to
Posted by NPComb
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:29 am to
Maybe if Mansfield didn't smell like arse those kids could concentrate.
Posted by RedPop4
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:34 am to
Happened to my younger boy a few years ago. We think he does have it, but he had the teacher at his school who is known to many parents as "the pusher." If your child had even the slightest attention span, they were evaluated and medicated by the time they left her class at the end of the year. She's a long-time third grade teacher, there, let's say we butted heads.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:37 am to
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While this screening form is not unusual, the teacher wrote “ADHD Confirmed” at the bottom of the document without any intervention from health care professionals.


What a fricking clownshow.

Vanderbilt Assessment Scales for ADHD isn't just one scale that the teacher takes. It's a set of scales that are taken by the child's teacher(s) and parents in combination with observation by a therapist in order to determine whether the child has ADHD (without a full-on psychiatric assessment which can get really expensive).

I'd also argue that a teacher may not have a good grasp of child behavior in a large kindergarten class before mid-year. And from a clinical perspective, I would question the frick out of scales that are not congruent (i.e. behavior at school is vastly different than behavior at home).

If anyone is curious, this is scoring instructions for Vanderbilt Scales:

Vanderbilt Scoring Instructions PDF

And the Parent and Teacher Scales themselves:

VAS scales PDF
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 9:39 am
Posted by Hangover Haven
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:39 am to
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I don't know what HD is but the doctor says I have 80 of 'em... VROOOOOM!!


That was the name of my nephew's band... 80HD.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:39 am to
She probably wanted 12 extra little connects for her amphetamine addiction.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:41 am to
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If your child had even the slightest attention span, they were evaluated and medicated by the time they left her class at the end of the year.


If you're pushing your child to a psychiatrist to get medicated based on one teacher's opinion, then the issue isn't just the teacher.
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:42 am to
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ADHD even an issue in kindergarten?


None of them have this “disorder”. It’s called being a NORMAL 5/6 year old. Do a puppet show with Elmo or Bluey and they’ll be attentive the entire time.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 9:44 am
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:44 am to
The pharma companies love this diagnosis. It is one of their money makers. They can get a customer for life.

ADHD drugs are real gateway drugs in many cases. Don’t get me wrong. They are definitely needed but IMO they are heavily OVER prescribed.
This post was edited on 10/18/22 at 9:47 am
Posted by Trauma14
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:44 am to
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Why are teachers diagnosing ADHD?


Shitty school Special Education Director not knowing how to apply IDEA laws. The school has a Child Find Mandate, but testing is to be done with parent approval or knowledge and definitely not by the teacher.
Posted by AceHole
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:45 am to
They need to be focused on the real issues, Sally with two mommies and why Susie has a dick
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:47 am to
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She wanted a class on ADHD meds so her days are easier...

/thread
Posted by supadave3
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2005
31759 posts
Posted on 10/18/22 at 9:49 am to
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It's the new scoliosis. Teachers in the 80s used to chomp at the bit to diagnose that


I remember that. The difference is that the don’t prescribe you meth for scoliosis.
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