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re: Parents detail spending $16k per year on JaXXXons travel ball career
Posted on 2/4/26 at 9:53 pm to lsu777
Posted on 2/4/26 at 9:53 pm to lsu777
Luckily, EPL teams already track this:
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Expected Goals (xG) and Assists (xA): A refined way of assessing a player’s potency in front of the goal, moving beyond just the number of goals or assists they produced. Graham’s model also calculated the probability of scoring or assisting after any given action a player makes; a pass, interception, recovery, etc. This was pivotal in determining how effective certain players would be within the tactical system.
Defensive Contributions and Pressing Metrics: Essential for a system like Jürgen Klopp’s ‘gegenpressing,’ these metrics, derived from sophisticated data analytics in football, evaluated a player’s off-the-ball work rate and defensive prowess. Players such as Firminio benefitted from these insights, the attacking midfielder adopted a new role under Klopps management and revolutionised the false 9 position.
Positional and Game State Data: Beyond just what a player does with the ball, understanding their movements and performance under varying game circumstances became crucial. Identifying where the players wanted to be to maintain the high press as well as protecting the back line from potential counters.
Injury History and Physical Metrics: Utilising a player’s injury history, stamina, top speed, and other physical data was vital for Klopp’s high-intensity ‘gengenpressing’ system. Without the squad depth of rivals Manchester City, Liverpool were able to compete across all competitions, with the main starting 11 playing over 80% of the total minutes in the premier league season
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Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:02 pm to tiggerthetooth
Hello every kids family that plays a college sport. Any level of D1 athletics or even high level JUCO and D2 had a family that spent a ton of $ on this. I can’t fault any of them for pursuing THEIR dreams. The life lessons they learned along the way will benefit them and make them stronger people as they become adults.
Baseball
Gymnastics
Dance
Volleyball
Softball
Baseball
Gymnastics
Dance
Volleyball
Softball
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:17 pm to 777Tiger
Lol. Reminds me of a good story.
A very, very well know major league manager, had a son around my age. He was drafted, and I heard from some of his teammates that he was an anomaly. He didn't have the talent to be on the field, he knew why he was drafted and didn't shy away from it. Said he was going to do 2 years in the minors, try not to take anyone's playing time and go work in finance.
A very, very well know major league manager, had a son around my age. He was drafted, and I heard from some of his teammates that he was an anomaly. He didn't have the talent to be on the field, he knew why he was drafted and didn't shy away from it. Said he was going to do 2 years in the minors, try not to take anyone's playing time and go work in finance.
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:21 pm to tigereye58
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The life lessons they learned along the way will benefit them and make them stronger people as they become adults.
So, parents need to pay five figures to teach the lesson to not be late to shite? And that other people depend on you? Don't quit when you lose or it gets hard?
Most expensive outsourcing of values ever.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 12:35 am to tiggerthetooth
I spent probably 6-7k per child every year in soccer. Did it for all three from age 11 until they graduated high school. The parents have as much fun as the kids and we had some epic trips. They loved it and all 3 played college soccer so it was worth it. I would do it all again given the choice, but it takes so much energy and I’m too tired now that I’m a little older.
I did it as a kid and those years are some of my best memories.
I did it as a kid and those years are some of my best memories.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 5:28 am to ClientNumber9
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Not to sidetrack this thread but names like this are the downfall of America. Everybody's kid has to be special and unique.
Sidetrack to your sidetrack:
There is a catchy little song called "Gary" and the chorus is "there aint a lot of boys named Gary these days."
Posted on 2/5/26 at 5:32 am to tiggerthetooth
This kid wouldn’t even make Barbes baseball team.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 6:16 am to tiggerthetooth
I mean it is bad, one I work with has their son with a hitting coach, fielding coach, and trainer that he sees every week all year. Kid plays for two travel ball teams so year around. They spend at least two weekends a month out of state at tournaments in Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia. Last year they played a World Series in New York and California.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:35 am to Joshjrn
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Everybody's kid has to be special and unique.
You ARE unique. Just like everyone else.
This post was edited on 2/5/26 at 7:36 am
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:37 am to tiggerthetooth
Friends kid is older and no longer involved in any of these travel team sports in high school.
He wishes he had just bought a camp and fishing boat with all that cash.
He wishes he had just bought a camp and fishing boat with all that cash.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:39 am to tiggerthetooth
And 99,9% of those kids have no chance to make it to the majors.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:41 am to Skenes
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I mean it is bad, one I work with has their son with a hitting coach, fielding coach, and trainer that he sees every week all year. Kid plays for two travel ball teams so year around. They spend at least two weekends a month out of state at tournaments in Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia. Last year they played a World Series in New York and California
Poor kid will probably get burnt out on baseball in the middle of HS. Then his parents will guilt trip him for wanting to quit.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:55 am to p0845330
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I’ve done worse, so why not?
Thanks for being the only honest guy on this board.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:57 am to ChestRockwell
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And 99,9% of those kids have no chance to make it to the majors.
Nor will playing in travel ball increase their chances.
Like the guy upthread who played in the minors posted, you have to be a certain physical specimen to play at that level. It's something you're born to do, not something you can make yourself into.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 7:57 am to carhartt
Give them a chance to pursue their dream or goal to the extent it fits your budget. Once they get to high school the game will tell them if they are good enough or not. As long as they are busting their arse to be the best they can be and keeping up with academics the structure of atheletics is very good for kids. Baseball is on the low end of cost conpared to dance, cheer, volleyball, soccer, lacrosse
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:01 am to tiggerthetooth
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travel ball career
Holy shite. This kid will have massive burnout.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:03 am to Bronco11
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If your kid just really likes to play and enjoys being on his travel teams, go for it! It's a great way to grow up and learn life lessons.
I was with you up until the last sentence here.
Travel ball is toxic to me because the entire family revolves around it and the bottom line reality of it is that it's a kid's game. It's entertainment. And families spend thousands of dollars and devote every weekend to it.
That's not a good life lesson. That everything revolves around your ability to throw or hit or catch a ball. Heck, that everything revolves around you for ANY reason is not a good life lesson for a kid.
Plus, what if you are a sibling who doesn't play ball? What's your life lesson?
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:03 am to ClientNumber9
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Not to sidetrack this thread but names like this are the downfall of America. Everybody's kid has to be special and unique
12 years ago when my daughter was about 5 we signed her up for the local coed t-ball rec league. I was asked to be the commissioner, so I had to put together the draft. Seems like it was about 50 or so kids. One thing I started noticing when I was listing out the players for the draft roster, was how popular the name “Caden” had suddenly become. Out of the roughly 50 or so kids, there had to be at least 6 or 7 of them named “Caden”, but more than that was the fact almost none of them spelled it the same. Some spelled it like it sounds, others used various combinations like:
Kayden
Kydon
Kheyden (this one was a girl)
Cayden
And on and on. I grew up with guys named Steve, Jimmy, Joe, Mike, Johnny, etc. not a single one of these kids had names like we had growing up.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:26 am to wackatimesthree
quote:this isnt entirely accurate. Yes. There are families that let it consume them. But we drew straws to see who had the weekend, especially as he aged. Rarely stayed overnight, most tourneys were two hours away? We only stayed when we had short turnarounds. About 11-12 weekends a year it was a time eater. Never played much in the fall until older
Travel ball is toxic to me because the entire family revolves around it and the bottom line reality of it is that it's a kid's game. It's entertainment. And families spend thousands of dollars and devote every weekend to it.
Found out early that lessons and such were a waste in season. Did do some stuff in offseason, but mostly non baseball fitness stuff.
His younger brother is a late bloomer, so on weekends he was forced to tag along we made the rest of the stuff revolve around his stuff and interests. Never talked about baseball very much and still only occasionally.
We were fortunate to have his first team stick together for six seasons, as they were very competitive
Overall would do it again with some minor changes. It is what you make it. From the outside it probably looks different.
For the record, the family in the OP is looney.
Posted on 2/5/26 at 8:30 am to LemmyLives
no doubt EPL teams and all major orgs do time motion analysis and they prolly understand that, it is position specific, but in general
50% of the match is spent Walking (Forward/Backward)
20% is spent Standing:
20% is spent jogging:
10% is spent in some form of High-Intensity/Sprinting with roughly 5% total or half of the sprinting being in the form of max effort
61% of scoring plays involve max effort sprint with the ball
75% of scoring plays involve a max effort sprint without the ball
some studies show up to 82% of scoring plays involve some for of max acceleration and
so if the goal is to score points in a soccer match and we know roughly 7 out of 10 times it will involve some type of max effort sprint......why would we do a sport that makes us slower at sprinting and acceleration?
especially when the studies also show 33% of the match is spent in some form of true acceleration, another 20% in some form of deceleration and then another 20% is spent in curvilinear acceleration?
i have no problem with kids doing cross country....I was just playing around about it being gay......its a cool sport and yea there is some sprinting involved but the nature of the sport is longer distance running at sub max speed. That type of training literally trains the body to lower rate of force development over time and blunts the signal to the motor units. we know this for a fact
so i do have a problem with a cross country coach bitching about team sport athletes not doing his sport as their secondary sport. Why the hell would a team sport athlete on the football, baseball, soccer teams want to go play a secondary sport that literally makes them worse at their main sport?
50% of the match is spent Walking (Forward/Backward)
20% is spent Standing:
20% is spent jogging:
10% is spent in some form of High-Intensity/Sprinting with roughly 5% total or half of the sprinting being in the form of max effort
61% of scoring plays involve max effort sprint with the ball
75% of scoring plays involve a max effort sprint without the ball
some studies show up to 82% of scoring plays involve some for of max acceleration and
so if the goal is to score points in a soccer match and we know roughly 7 out of 10 times it will involve some type of max effort sprint......why would we do a sport that makes us slower at sprinting and acceleration?
especially when the studies also show 33% of the match is spent in some form of true acceleration, another 20% in some form of deceleration and then another 20% is spent in curvilinear acceleration?
i have no problem with kids doing cross country....I was just playing around about it being gay......its a cool sport and yea there is some sprinting involved but the nature of the sport is longer distance running at sub max speed. That type of training literally trains the body to lower rate of force development over time and blunts the signal to the motor units. we know this for a fact
so i do have a problem with a cross country coach bitching about team sport athletes not doing his sport as their secondary sport. Why the hell would a team sport athlete on the football, baseball, soccer teams want to go play a secondary sport that literally makes them worse at their main sport?
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