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re: Parallel Universes
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:20 pm to LSUGreg
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:20 pm to LSUGreg
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I'm just here to recommend you watch Dark Matter
Wheels fell off that show tonight when he had the chat app and could talk to 73 versions of himself.
Even that was under 100 lol.
Funny that quantum baw basically had an OT Lounge fart out of the ether.
This post was edited on 6/26/24 at 10:22 pm
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:32 pm to RedRifle
In some alternate universe Brittany Spears is Empress of the world.
Posted on 6/26/24 at 10:43 pm to RedRifle
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Watching the show “Fringe”
Walter GOAT tv character

Posted on 6/26/24 at 11:07 pm to RedRifle
I assume you mean "many worlds" which was a hypothesis put forth in the 50's by a grad student named Hugh Everett. His PhD advisor was famed American physicist John Wheeler who was impressed with the idea. Wheeler had Everett meet Niels Bohr (a giant in physics) who thought the idea was dumb and called him stupid.
Everett didn't like this sort of criticism and decided to get out of the theoretical side of physics and went to work on classified weapons programs for the government. Some of what he did is still classified, but I believe he worked on nuclear weapons, the Minuteman missile and other stuff. He was big on computer modeling (a new idea in the 50's) and spent a lot of time in that realm. Everett ate all the time, chain smoked, drank a ton of liquor, and never exercised. He died at age 51 of a heart attack.
Everett's idea was not popular at all for years until someone revived it in the 70's after work on the Bell theorem. Now it is a mainstream view - not a consensus - but not considered fringe. Several notable physicists have latched onto the idea and promote it nowadays.
Basically what he did was say "take the wave equation and that's it. Stop trying to add shite to it." Everett argued that if you do this, then what you get is the universe splitting into many universes. Everett was clear that he didn't invent the idea of multiple universes to be cute, but was simply showing what happens if you follow the wave equation to its logical conclusion. He claimed that doing this solves Schrodinger's cat and all the other paradoxes. (The cat was alive in one universe and dead in another). In other words, the wave function does not "collapse" but simply exists in all possible states in various universes.
Everett didn't like this sort of criticism and decided to get out of the theoretical side of physics and went to work on classified weapons programs for the government. Some of what he did is still classified, but I believe he worked on nuclear weapons, the Minuteman missile and other stuff. He was big on computer modeling (a new idea in the 50's) and spent a lot of time in that realm. Everett ate all the time, chain smoked, drank a ton of liquor, and never exercised. He died at age 51 of a heart attack.
Everett's idea was not popular at all for years until someone revived it in the 70's after work on the Bell theorem. Now it is a mainstream view - not a consensus - but not considered fringe. Several notable physicists have latched onto the idea and promote it nowadays.
Basically what he did was say "take the wave equation and that's it. Stop trying to add shite to it." Everett argued that if you do this, then what you get is the universe splitting into many universes. Everett was clear that he didn't invent the idea of multiple universes to be cute, but was simply showing what happens if you follow the wave equation to its logical conclusion. He claimed that doing this solves Schrodinger's cat and all the other paradoxes. (The cat was alive in one universe and dead in another). In other words, the wave function does not "collapse" but simply exists in all possible states in various universes.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:12 am to RedRifle
The whole notion of parallel universes got a boost from String Theory, which is airy crap with absolutely no real foundation. ST was a way to make the math work in the Standard Model. An attempt to reconcile Quantum physics with Newtonian mechanics. But no one has actually done it, and even ST's longtime defenders are losing patience with the lack of progress finding any real evidence for it. So no, the only place parallel universes exist are comic books and Star Trek episodes. You're likely to find a Tribble first.
Look up two books: Not Even Wrong, and Farewell to Reality. Both are about how physics have devolved into this fantasy where theoretical physicists compete to come up with the most outlandish theories, all of them unprovable. All of them depending on exotic equations that make spectacularly bad assumptions (also, of course, un-provable in the real world). In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking admitted that he picked his branch of physics because he didn't actually have to prove anything in a lab or a particle accelerator. Modern Physics has kind of become like Modern Art. It's all about the outlandish theory. It's turtles, all the way down.
Look up two books: Not Even Wrong, and Farewell to Reality. Both are about how physics have devolved into this fantasy where theoretical physicists compete to come up with the most outlandish theories, all of them unprovable. All of them depending on exotic equations that make spectacularly bad assumptions (also, of course, un-provable in the real world). In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking admitted that he picked his branch of physics because he didn't actually have to prove anything in a lab or a particle accelerator. Modern Physics has kind of become like Modern Art. It's all about the outlandish theory. It's turtles, all the way down.
This post was edited on 6/27/24 at 12:15 am
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:17 am to DesScorp
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Look up two books: Not Even Wrong, and Farewell to Reality. Both are about how physics have devolved into this fantasy where theoretical physicists compete to come up with the most outlandish theories, all of them unprovable. All of them depending on exotic equations that make spectacularly bad assumptions (also, of course, un-provable in the real world). In A Brief History of Time, Stephen Hawking admitted that he picked his branch of physics because he didn't actually have to prove anything in a lab or a particle accelerator. Modern Physics has kind of become like Modern Art. It's all about the outlandish theory. It's turtles, all the way down.
Real talk. This guy must have hawk tuah'd because he's spitting truth.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:29 am to RedRifle
Perhaps. I do believe there are dimensions, alternative realities not detectable by our current understanding or observations.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:11 am to Shamoan
Dark Matter on Apple TV is about this exact topic and is an amazing show. I highly suggest checking it out.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 3:22 am to RedRifle
I'm competing with the other infinite me's out there, and currently I am coming in dead last.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 5:38 am to RedRifle
Please allow me to introduce you to the show Rick and Morty.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 9:35 am to MyRockstarComplex
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Please allow me to introduce you to the show Rick and Morty.
A true arbiter of science
Posted on 6/27/24 at 10:13 am to Bullfrog
tell me you don't understand collapsing wave functions without telling me....
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:32 am to fr33manator
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Then I realized the only one that matters is the one here. Where I don't matter. So much as I'm just an insignificant bit of matter, a mote in a moment.
But I matter to the ones that love me, and that I love. And that's all that matters.
I too thought about my relative insignificance in a seemingly mechanistic universe. Vast expanses of nothing, cold unmeasurable, heat that boils planets, and unfathomable distances, all spinning from nothing, only marking time by the revolution of spheres hung in space by chance. An uncreated creation. Nihilism and hedonism made a miserable wretch of me. A poor man’s Bazarov. I was spiraling down a whirlpool of empty, meaningless, and unfulfilling pleasure and hopeless despair. Eat. Drink. Be merry. Tomorrow we die.
It’s profoundly true, and eternally significant, that we matter to those who love us, and they to us. It’s the only “real” universe. It’s substantial, it can be tasted, handled, it’s visible, and has knowable history of great significance. All others are insubstantial, theoretical, invisible, and insignificant.
I discovered nearly fifty years ago the small fellowship who love me numbered one more than I’d counted on.
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Pharisees and the scribes grumbled, saying, “This man receives sinners and eats with them.”
So he told them this parable:
“What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he has lost one of them, does not leave the ninety-nine in the open country, and go after the one that is lost, until he finds it? And when he has found it, he lays it on his shoulders, rejoicing.
And when he comes home, he calls together his friends and his neighbours, saying to them, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found my sheep that was lost.’
Just so, I tell you, there will be more joy in heaven over one sinner who repents than over ninety-nine righteous persons who need no repentance.
Or what woman, having ten silver coins, if she loses one coin, does not light a lamp and sweep the house and seek diligently until she finds it?
And when she has found it, she calls together her friends and neighbours, saying, ‘Rejoice with me, for I have found the coin that I had lost.’
Just so, I tell you, there is joy before the angels of God over one sinner who repents.”
Luke 15:1-10
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For while we were still weak, at the right time Christ died for the ungodly.
For one will scarcely die for a righteous person—though perhaps for a good person one would dare even to die— but God shows his love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Romans 5:6-8
Posted on 6/27/24 at 11:37 am to RedRifle
Nope. Aliens don't exist either.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:01 pm to AUstar
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I assume you mean "many worlds" which was a hypothesis put forth in the 50's by a grad student named Hugh Everett.
Fun fact his son is Mark Everett, lead singer of the Eels
Posted on 6/27/24 at 12:10 pm to Rex Feral
The more I go down the rabbit hole of space time, the beginning of the universe, expansion, and entropy, the more I realize that physics is basically the study of cosmic history. Everything we can see beyond our own solar system is likely long gone, so even discovering life in some galaxy far far away, it's nearly certain to be a glimpse into a distant past.
The other noodle cooker I'm currently spinning around is that if any sentient life forms are out there "currently" observing us from a great distance, they are likely from in the distant future and do not exist in our current present.
The other noodle cooker I'm currently spinning around is that if any sentient life forms are out there "currently" observing us from a great distance, they are likely from in the distant future and do not exist in our current present.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 2:21 pm to UAinSOUTHAL
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Dark Matter on Apple TV is about this exact topic and is an amazing show. I highly suggest checking it out.
Whenever he just had to sign into his guest account on a Mac to talk to all the versions of himself is where I just couldn’t not laugh at the boondoggle of a product placement.
Ironically enough, accountability was the final message. Wild stuff.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 3:17 pm to LSUGreg
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I'm just here to recommend you watch Dark Matter.
But have the family trees handy while watching. Awesome show.
Posted on 6/27/24 at 3:55 pm to Philzilla2k
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Robert E. Howard, Queen of the Black Coast
Is Robert E Howard the guy who wrote the Conan books?
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