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re: OT old guys and MDs do you take a testosterone pill? NO, not "andro-GEL".
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:34 pm to CelticDog
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:34 pm to CelticDog
i'd only touch the synthetic hormones if you are in desperate health. the studies on long term effects of hormone supplements are horrifying.
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:34 pm to CelticDog
Injection is the only way to go.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:40 pm to jbgleason
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You just need to decide if looking good now is worth cancer or worse later
It's not just about looking good, Low T can cause depression and if you've ever had depression issues from Low T, you'd take it, I promise you.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:42 pm to Elephino
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To my recollection, there isn't an oral testosterone FDA approved only methyltestosterone
i've seen that medication at exactly 1 pharmacy in my entire 10+ year career as a pharmacist that has include 4 national chains, 6 or 7 independents, an infusion pharmacy, and a clinical care pharmacy...
and oxandrolone is probably the safer option via oral route, and it's not really used to treat low T at normal dosing guidelines, but at higher dosages, it absolutely can... but the liver toxicity possibility obviously increases as well... which is more what i was trying to say... in regards to significantly raising T levels (which can be done), you'd have to get a pretty substantial dose of ox, and by then the risk outweighs the potential benefit...
hell, i'd just go with a SERM or aromatase inhibitor and try to naturally increase my testosterone with diet and exercise if i wanted that "extra"... but even then, i'm not sure how much Free T you'd end up having.... at some point, to Cork's point, you have to accept the fact that you ain't gonna be producing as much as you used to...
or just go with HGH, if you can afford it...
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:46 pm to chRxis
SERM or aromatase inhibitor I will look into these
HGH seems like a short term only, for healing injury, right?
I remember reading a study that showed that using steroid for a week with a training regime can put on 10 lbs of muscle, with no emotional baggage if you just use it once every couple of months.
HGH seems like a short term only, for healing injury, right?
I remember reading a study that showed that using steroid for a week with a training regime can put on 10 lbs of muscle, with no emotional baggage if you just use it once every couple of months.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:48 pm to slinger1317
If you are predisposed to prostate cancer, testosterone
supplements are like pouring gas on a fire.
supplements are like pouring gas on a fire.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:56 pm to CelticDog
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SERM or aromatase inhibitor I will look into these
please don't ask your physician about this... they are used for breast cancer, damn near exclusively...
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HGH seems like a short term only, for healing injury, right?
HGH, for the most part, is the safer option, even long term... HGH is very good for keeping you looking and feeling younger for longer... but it ain't cheap, by any stretch...
quote:there's a LOT that goes into steroid cycling... as far as it's illicit use and how to rebound your natural T production and stuff, i'm not an expert...
I remember reading a study that showed that using steroid for a week with a training regime can put on 10 lbs of muscle, with no emotional baggage if you just use it once every couple of months.
Test can be a very good drug, don't get me wrong, but it has to be done properly, under a physician's care... typically, those that get it black market start self-adjusting doses and that's when you see people blow out their livers and shite...
Posted on 3/2/17 at 12:56 pm to CelticDog
Aromatase inhibitors will prevent the conversion of androgen to estrogen, but it isn't an effective long-term solution. Estrogen is required in men for things like maintaining bone mineral density. SARMs are being investigated for things like maintaining/increasing muscle mass, but they are still in various stages of clinical testing.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:03 pm to chRxis
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they are used for breast cancer, damn near exclusively
All of the drugs in the class were originally derived from the stilbene scaffold of diethylstilbestrol (clomid, tamoxifen, raloxifene). I bet that a good number of your patients receiving evista aren't taking it as part of a female-specific cancer regimen. It has become quite common to use it prophylactically in women who are high risk for developing breast cancer and to help maintain bone density.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:07 pm to CelticDog
I get the shot in the arse
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:15 pm to Ace Midnight
I get the pellets, and I love them.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:17 pm to CelticDog
Pills don't work. injections are better
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:27 pm to Pepe Lepew
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I get the shot in the arse
Yep.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:30 pm to CelticDog
No I don't take steroids.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:34 pm to chryso
I'm 56. Take 1cc in the butt injected once every 2 weeks. Taking a testosterone supplement is needed if you have low T. Read up on the effects of low testosterone.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:37 pm to jbgleason
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You boys are fricking with Mother Nature and to think there isn't going to be consequences down the road is pretty wishful thinking. You just need to decide if looking good now is worth cancer or worse later.
What's worse than cancer?
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:54 pm to CelticDog
See if you can get a compounded cream. Better than andro gel and safer.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 1:55 pm to Broham
Ask your Doc for an oil-based injectable Testosterone and learn how to inject your glutes.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 2:00 pm to TheIndulger
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What's worse than cancer?
Sudden cardiac arrest.
Posted on 3/2/17 at 2:01 pm to CelticDog
I'm on a supplement because of low bone density in hips. I'm in my late 50's.
I tried the liquid stuff under the arm (axiron) for a couple of months. It was messy (liquid that you put on your pits first thing in the morning). It didn't work.
Been on patch (androderm) for a while. T level went from around 300 to 617 in a month. So far so good. Just don't like having to put a new patch on every night. Really pricey if you don't have good insurance too.
Good luck!
I tried the liquid stuff under the arm (axiron) for a couple of months. It was messy (liquid that you put on your pits first thing in the morning). It didn't work.
Been on patch (androderm) for a while. T level went from around 300 to 617 in a month. So far so good. Just don't like having to put a new patch on every night. Really pricey if you don't have good insurance too.
Good luck!
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