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HubbaBubba
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OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
I'm replacing the double oven in my kitchen. The oven's cabinet in my kitchen has a finished exposed side, from the floor to just below the ceiling. For various reasons, I want to put a wall plug there on that side.

Currently, the 220v line comes into the cavity where the oven is installed and terminates inside a receptacle box, then the oven is plugged in to that. Since the new 110v outlet will come from that 220v source, and is behind the oven, should I run that 220v to a small breaker panel in the wall behind the oven (which is a blank wall in my pantry, and break out the 220v to the oven receptacle from there, and also break out to another receptacle with a 220v to 110v adapter inside, and then run my 110v line to the wall plug?

Or, am I overthinking this? Should I simplify things by installing a two-gang 220v receptacle behind the oven and plug in a 220v to 110v adapter, and run my 110v receptacle from there?

Also, since kitchens require a GFCI, is this even doable at all and meet code?


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
Are you asking if you should jumper the 110v off of the 220 receptacle or if you can just wire the 110 where the 220 used to be?


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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Are you asking if you should jumper the 110v off of the 220 receptacle or if you can just wire the 110 where the 220 used to be?



The Op needs to hire someone to do whatever he is asking.

You are cooking up a recipe (pun intended) for a fire.


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
110v double oven?



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HubbaBubba
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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The Op needs to hire someone to do whatever he is asking.
No doubt in my mind, but I want the OT's advice before I get an electrician over that decides he can go to the most expensive way, or the way that meets code and is least expensive.


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HubbaBubba
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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Are you asking if you should jumper the 110v off of the 220 receptacle or if you can just wire the 110 where the 220 used to be?
ADD a 110


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Oilfieldbiology
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
You’re fine. Don’t be a pussy.

Electrical tape and one of those wire connector screw on things and you’re good

But seriously, I know nothing about electricity beyond V=IR. Good luck
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
Just take your 220 wire and split it in half. Now wire the one half in to the 110 plug, since half of 220 is 110.

Easy.



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shoestring
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
Any electric oven should have its own circuit with no other tie ins or jumpers. also if you try to pull 110v off one side for an outlet it would have to include a 15 amp inline fuse or it would be extremely dangerous!!!!


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
The first thing is the 240v circuit wire with 3 wires or 4?


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Specktricity
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
Your way over thinking this. Just change the breaker to a single pole and replace the receptacle with a 120V. Reuse the existing wire. You will have an extra conductor but that's okay just cap it and move on.


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line


Yeah, don't do it.


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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Your way over thinking this. Just change the breaker to a single pole and replace the receptacle with a 120V. Reuse the existing wire. You will have an extra conductor but that's okay just cap it and move on.



You may be way oversimplifying it. We need to know if he has a neutral or not to determine if he can properly wire a 120v from the 240v circuit. It is likely he does but not guaranteed. Also, I thought he still needs 240v from the circuit, maybe I am wrong.


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HubbaBubba
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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You may be way oversimplifying it. We need to know if he has a neutral or not to determine if he can properly wire a 120v from the 240v circuit. It is likely he does but not guaranteed. Also, I thought he still needs 240v from the circuit, maybe I am wrong.
I will still need that.


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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I will still need that.


OK 3 wire or 4 wire 240v circuit?


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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
Split the amperage in half and add two breakers at the panel. Put one hot into each breaker and run that to your 220 plug for oven. Put a wire nut in that box and run one of your hots to the 110 plug.




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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
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No doubt in my mind, but I want the OT's advice before I get an electrician over that decides he can go to the most expensive way, or the way that meets code and is least expensive.


Nobody here is an electrician, and if they are, they aren't giving you their shite for free.

Do with that what you will.


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Specktricity
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re: OT Electrician advice needed: running 110v off of 220v line
I disagree, if he has an existing 240V circuit then he has at least 3 conductors. That would be sufficient for H-N-G 120V circuit. He just needs to make sure he sizes the 1 pole breaker correctly for the wire size.


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