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OT biblical and rabbinical scholars
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:17 pm
When God did not bless Cain’s offering of the literal fruits of his labor from his vineyards, can it be extrapolated that the results of how we do our jobs on a daily basis are the fruit that we sacrifice to him, and that God will not bless our work unless we give our best effort?
By bless I do not mean strictly money or acclaim, since those things aren’t what fulfills or gives one meaning at their job and there are plenty terrible people making lots of money and having fame
By bless I do not mean strictly money or acclaim, since those things aren’t what fulfills or gives one meaning at their job and there are plenty terrible people making lots of money and having fame
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 1:18 pm
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Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:19 pm to Masterag
a bunch of people dicking off at work are surely the best people to ask this question 
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:19 pm to Masterag
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fruit that we sacrifice to him
Jesus fixed this. Waiting for a Jewish scholar to step in.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:20 pm to Salmon
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a bunch of people dicking off at work are surely the best people to ask this question
touché
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 1:21 pm
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:22 pm to Masterag
Yeah hold on let me close out this CAD drawing to pull out my Summa Theologica
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:23 pm to Big Gorilla
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Jesus fixed this.
Well, he caused us not to have to build altars and kill or livestock upon them to atone for sin, but we still have to make offerings to God in various forms such as money, time, etc.
would it not make sense that effort would also be a way to make an offering?
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:24 pm to Salmon
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a bunch of people dicking off at work are surely the best people to ask this question
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:24 pm to Masterag
Cain brought God all the fruits of the earth that he broke his back to produce
And God Said
“I don’t like vegetables baw”
And God Said
“I don’t like vegetables baw”
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:25 pm to Masterag
NB4 this thread, sadly, gets deleted. We ought to be able to discuss religion here without being inundated with trolls, edgelords and political hacks.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:27 pm to Masterag
He didn't bless Cain because what was in his heart, not because of the fruits from his labor. He told him to stop looking down and raise your eyes. Meaning fix your eyes on Jesus
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:28 pm to Masterag
one time I slept with a jewish girl that went on to rabbinical school. I'll text her right now.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:29 pm to Masterag
Sure, God creates the universe and sits around waiting to bless offerings.
Unfathomable mis-allocation of God’s talents, no? Cain’s self esteem issues are biblical.
Unfathomable mis-allocation of God’s talents, no? Cain’s self esteem issues are biblical.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:33 pm to Masterag
Not a biblical scholar, but I can only assume that since the author of that portion of Genesis did not include the reason why Cain’s offering was not accepted, then the reason was not important to him. Able’s story was the important part he wanted to tell, Cain’s was likely superfluous. This of course, tells the author’s intent, not God’s.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:35 pm to Duckhammer_77
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jewish girl that went on to rabbinical school.
I just picture a super hairy middle eastern girl. Want to picture Gal Gadot but I am failing.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:42 pm to Masterag
Cain's offering (or love for God) was a mere afterthought. A lazy attempt.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:43 pm to slimbone65
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He didn't bless Cain because what was in his heart, not because of the fruits from his labor. He told him to stop looking down and raise your eyes. Meaning fix your eyes on Jesus
Interesting. But, could it not be said that how we perform our jobs is a reflection of what’s in our heart?
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:47 pm to Masterag
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Interesting. But, could it not be said that how we perform our jobs is a reflection of what’s in our heart?
A Christian should be the best employee at work, if that's what you're getting at, but I don't think the Biblical account of Cain's sacrifice not being accepted is proof of that.
This post was edited on 3/6/23 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 3/6/23 at 1:57 pm to LittleJerrySeinfield
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A Christian should be the best employee at work,
While I don't disagree with this statement there are a lot of Hindus that make GREAT doctors and workers. Some atheists as well.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:05 pm to Masterag
Isogetically speaking, ie placing into the text a Christ centric interpretation, Abel’s offering was the blood of the lamb and Cain’s was the work of his hands
Meaning, prophetically speaking, God only accepts the blood offering of the lamb (Jesus) over man’s works.
Meaning, prophetically speaking, God only accepts the blood offering of the lamb (Jesus) over man’s works.
Posted on 3/6/23 at 2:11 pm to slimbone65
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He didn't bless Cain because what was in his heart, not because of the fruits from his labor. He told him to stop looking down and raise your eyes. Meaning fix your eyes on Jesus
i have heard it discussed as "first Fruits" Cain gave out of his excess, and it wasnt he best. while able gave the "first". he gave God the best of his offerings.
as stated Able gave of pure heart, while Cain gave of obligation.
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