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re: OT Ballers - Life insurance amount and rate?

Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by Broyota2
Member since Nov 2010
13645 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:12 pm to
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Always shop around, the one thing my dad taught me (that I need to do better about) because it will save you in the long run.



Don't know who told your old man that, but life insurance has so many upfront fees, tax consequences of dropping a policy, waiting periods, etc..I get shopping your property&liability because of a rate change but life insurance is an entirely different ballgame.
Posted by calcotron
Member since Nov 2007
10122 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:12 pm to
Dangerously close to it being better for my family if I died vs. lived.
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:13 pm to
$1.5M for 30 years, $68/month.

I'm about 15 years into it; bought it when I was actually young and health. Will get me to 65, after which house is paid for and kids out of college. I have enough saved in retirement for them to live comfortably if I kick it after that.
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
19865 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

but life insurance has so many upfront fees, tax consequences of dropping a policy, waiting periods, etc..


Can you expand on "TAX CONSEQUECES of dropping a policy" as far as a Term policy goes? Certainly they don't tax you for changing insurance companies? I am hoping your response is "no, that's for whole life".
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11183 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:17 pm to
There’s no tax consequences on a term policy. But switching companies mid term isn’t smart
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
40326 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:19 pm to
3 mil in coverage today dropping by a mil every 10 years.

112 per month today.
Posted by NewBR
Member since Sep 2008
768 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:21 pm to
I guess you could ladder policies and maybe save a few bucks, but then that could be a pain for your survivors to figure out.

Figure out what you need to insure for -- house, college, etc. -- and then how long you need it -- age of kids, length of mortgage. If you are trying to build a nest egg, paying less for life insurance and investing the difference in an index fund will probably give a better return.

Also -- you are a farmer, raise timber or own a lot land, you might also figure estate tax consequences. But that's not likely.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:22 pm to
If that is a term policy and you are not over 40 you're getting ripped off (assuming you are telling the truth about your health).

Posted by Dixie Normus
Earth
Member since Sep 2013
2846 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:24 pm to
$1 mil for $38/mo
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11183 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:26 pm to
quote:

If you are trying to build a nest egg, paying less for life insurance and investing the difference in an index fund will probably give a better return.


I don’t follow Dave Ramsey. I do both. My 401k is maxed, I have funds in an American Funds Growth Fund. The permanent insurance allows me to access the money without tax consequences. It’s essentially the fixed bond portion of my retirement portfolio
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
23428 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:36 pm to
Your age is important but yes that’s incredibly expensive OP. I have a $1 mil for $31/ month and I could have gotten cheaper. I should get more but my wife would be fine if I died with our savings.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36486 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:44 pm to
2 mil 20 year term, $123/mo, have the potential to drop it to $99/mo with a yearly blood pressure test. The average of my 3 BP readings was 120/81 and needed to be 120/80, fricking horseshite. If I test at or below 120/80 the rate will drop to $99

Also have 350k through work for something like $5/pay period.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
71887 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:45 pm to
What? You tryin to whack us all, baw?
Posted by VABuckeye
NOVA
Member since Dec 2007
38283 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:55 pm to
An OT baller is self-insured. Life insurance is for before you accumulate wealth.
Posted by slacker130
Your mom
Member since Jul 2010
8943 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:57 pm to
A smart man once told me, be under-insured. That way, everyone is sad when your gone.
Posted by DCtiger1
Member since Jul 2009
11183 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:00 pm to
Negative, life insurance is how the wealthy stay wealthy.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49227 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:04 pm to
Now here’s a thread where every single poster is an insurance expert and understands mortality tables, breakpoints, and all of the other multitudes of underwriting ins and outs.
Posted by TDsngumbo
Member since Oct 2011
49227 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:06 pm to
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DCtiger1

You’re seriously one of only one or two others here who actually know what the frick they’re talking about when it comes to life insurance.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14430 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:07 pm to
at 38 i got a 10 year term for $750k for $86/month

however, i had cancer which put me into a high risk.

need your age and term vs life to make a conclusion

Posted by auwaterfowler
Alabama
Member since Jan 2020
2866 posts
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:08 pm to
$3 million for $238/month. It’s a 20-year term that I’m 10 years in on. I’m 50 now and have very low bad cholesterol.
This post was edited on 3/10/23 at 3:10 pm
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