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re: Opioid maker Purdue Pharma files for bankruptcy

Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:17 am to
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
78005 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:17 am to
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It's practically impossible to do on any large scale though. All payments are disclosed now.
Exactly.

And it makes zero economic sense to pay physicians under the table.

There are a lot of physicians.

It is mainly due to movies and tv shows that people still believe this happens.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
45417 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:20 am to
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Purdue told doctors and patients that OxyContin wasn’t addictive.


I read last night that some of Purdue's executives have plead guilty to criminal charges. This wasn't just good marketing it was criminal what they did.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:24 am to
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it was criminal what they did.


100% criminal.

They KNEW OxyContin was very addictive and knowingly lied to doctors and patients.

Absolute scum that should rot in prison. Think of all the people that got 30 pill prescriptions for minor shite at the beginning and completely lost their lives to addictions. OxyContin fricks you up.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:25 am to
I was absolutely shocked when I studied this map about the number of prescriptions of opioids per 100 people that are written. In many parishes in Louisiana it is over 100 per 100 people ANNUALLY. That is every man, women and child could have a prescription every year.

IT IS HUGE NUMBERS!!

LINK

We should all sue the state government for funding these prescriptions with Medicaid. You know in states like Louisiana or Mississippi there is no bigger buyer of opioids than the state government.

Who is the bigger threat to society--the makers of the drugs or the buyers of the drugs??

How crazy is it that states are suing these drug companies for understating the addiction threat while at the same time the states KNOW the addiction risks yet they are still are shelling out BILLIONS of taxpayer dollars to buy them????

It is not about protecting the people---just like tobacco it is about the $$$$ to the lawyers representing the states.
This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 9:38 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:26 am to
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Think of all the people that got 30 pill prescriptions for minor shite


Exactly.

I know someone who got an Oxy script when she got an IUD inserted. I mean, really? Yes, it isn't a comfortable experience. But does it really need that kind of pain management?

This post was edited on 9/16/19 at 9:27 am
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4870 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 9:57 am to
If you take medication AS DIRECTED, no one OD's. If the direction is one tablet every 12 hrs...then don't take 5 every 12 hrs. Again, accountability
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
86110 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:01 am to
Curious if anyone can provide a link to the settlement. When I was exiting the military I was on oxycontin and oxycodone 3x per day. Would be interested to read up on this stuff.
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4870 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:07 am to
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Purdue told doctors and patients that OxyContin wasn’t addictive.


Again...common sense applies here. If the doctor says the sky is red and I choose to believe it, then i'll look at a blue sky, say to myself "well, the Dr. said it was red so it must really be", then it's accountability. If I take a drug (lets use opioids for example) and it makes me feel "funny" or "euphoric" and I subsequently want more and more of it, I have a decision to make because COMMON SENSE tells me it could be addictive.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57015 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:28 am to
The Sackler Family, who founded Purdue Pharma just got caught trying to hide some of their money


Sackler family 'funnelled $1bn into different bank accounts'
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
105168 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:31 am to
They’re going to look funny with a team of forensic accountants crawling straight up their asses.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141126 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:33 am to
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30072 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:38 am to
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Wasn’t there proof that the company was using payola to get docs to over prescribe their meds?


Yes ProPublica uncovered the scheme. The feds and states should have filed RICO charges against the doctors who wrote the scripts and took bribes but they are too afraid of going after them because they know they will be outgunned by their lawyers
Posted by cave canem
pullarius dominus
Member since Oct 2012
12186 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:41 am to
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What about when a prescription company lies to doctors and markets a highly addictive drug as non habit forming.




Any doctor that believed it was not habit forming should have his license revoked immediately.

Don't let them off the hook, they knew exactly what they were prescribing and the potential for addiction from the get go.

They did it for money just like Purdue Pharma.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 10:49 am to
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Sidicous
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I'd like to see more companies go on the legal offensive rather than roll over and settle. Simply spinoff all new product lines and when some ambulance chaser comes at them, bankrupt the spin off.

RoundUp? F' it! go bankrupt! Oxy? F' it, go bankrupt!

When the pharma corps especially get tired of the crap they'd be wise to just pull out of the USA market and stop providing meds to the entire nation. See how quickly the legal extortion stops then.




These Poli Board idiots have zero shame about showing how completely stupid they are, about everything, every time.
Posted by Sayre
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Nov 2011
5754 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:00 am to
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TheBaker



quote:

Again...common sense applies here. If the doctor says the sky is red and I choose to believe it, then i'll look at a blue sky, say to myself "well, the Dr. said it was red so it must really be", then it's accountability. If I take a drug (lets use opioids for example) and it makes me feel "funny" or "euphoric" and I subsequently want more and more of it, I have a decision to make because COMMON SENSE tells me it could be addictive.





As usual, most of the commentators are just beyond clueless. Y'all have no idea how dumb y'all are for talking about shite you really don't understand.

You stupid, brain dead morons, why y'all look up WITHDRAWAL SYMPTOMS, or the simple fact that everybody reacts to drugs differently, and then shut the frick up.
Posted by TwoFace
Member since Mar 2018
1406 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:11 am to
"They lobbied congress to enact laws that forced health care providers to consider pain management as part of their service and physician ratings (which are tied to reimbursement and compensation)."


Pain is the 5th vital sign blah blah blah..... these pain scores/satisfaction surveys made working in ER intolerable!
Posted by MLCLyons
Member since Nov 2012
4793 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:13 am to
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I swear. ZERO accountability for anything these days. If some POS moron uses a gun...it's the gun's fault. If someone gets hooked on drugs...it's an opioid crisis.


Found Ralph Abraham's account.
Posted by lsuconnman
Baton rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5563 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:18 am to
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We should all sue the state government for funding these prescriptions with Medicaid. You know in states like Louisiana or Mississippi there is no bigger buyer of opioids than the state government.



You don’t seem to know what you are talking about. Medicaid explicitly excludes pain management from coverage.

Posted by RedPop4
Santiago de Compostela
Member since Jan 2005
15329 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:27 am to
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It is mainly due to movies and tv shows that people still believe this happens.


I would posit that this is more prevalent than we know, proven by the stances taken by a significant portion of our population on socio-political issues. It certainly drives social media which normalizes the worst things we see in society for us to believe that thing really are this way.

Like most things, there are plenty of factors and blame to go around for the opioid crisis, only one of which is a scheming pharmaceutical company. Scruffy highlights all of this so well in his posts.
Posted by wutangfinancial
Treasure Valley
Member since Sep 2015
11984 posts
Posted on 9/16/19 at 11:41 am to
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'd imagine the vast majority of people posting "responsibility" memes have been prescribed medicine by doctors

...and they took it :omg:



I know plenty of people that didn't need pain killers after a surgery and they....wait for it......didn't use them. I can't even remember the last time I used an entire perscription of anything I was perscribed by a doctor. You can blame these dudes for their sales tactics, that's fine. But give me a break on this. If people are going in trying to get drugs and then they OD on heroin because they can't get perscribed again, that's a personal problem.
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