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re: One awful mess in the trucking industry currently unfolding
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:08 pm to Pelican fan99
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:08 pm to Pelican fan99
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I thought truck driving paid pretty well.
Not as well as you think and if you have a family not well at all. A lot of these drivers have to go in their pockets at lots of distribution centers to have their trucks unloaded and stacked / palletized correctly. They get reimbursed back at the yard/ terminal. Especially grocery warehouses.
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Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:15 pm to Violent Tally
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Damm unions
I know as Republicans we are to hate unions no matter what, but the teamsters want the trucking companies doing well. Less trucking companies with less truckers on the road is bad for union business....and the union is first snd foremost a business.
Management, it seems did a screw job.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:34 pm to KiwiHead
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I know as Republicans we
We? You got a mouse in your pocket??
Dont lump us all in with that partisan BS.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:36 pm to danilo
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Stop being poor
Wish j could see the lives of those that post this nonsense on here.
We're all dependant on truck drivers, cooks, janitors, etc. Hopefully these posts aren't actually serious.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:38 pm to Horsemeat
Trump broke them.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:48 pm to teke184
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In this state or elsewhere?
Sorry for the late response, but not in Louisiana. At least not headquartered.
I’m not sure of the case you mention, though. Would like to check it out though if you have an article or something. As for auto rates, they are increasing everywhere % wise. We are seeing carriers that need 20-30M in limits paying triple now on certain layers of that total limit.
I’ve seen as little as 10M limit cost 5 fricking million dollars.
Celadon obviously had plenty if other issues going on. You sure as shite can’t insure fraud.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 9:53 pm to Moustache
What is really squeezing mid to small size companies is Auto Liability insurance, though that did not seem to be a huge role with Celadon. Rates have been sky rocketing as plaintiff attorneys hone strategies to get their lottery tickets from truck accidents.
Plus on top of that California and New Jersey have changed their laws to essentially outlaw the owner-operator model.
The end result is companies operating on razor thin margins despite generating what would seem like a healthy gross income.
Plus on top of that California and New Jersey have changed their laws to essentially outlaw the owner-operator model.
The end result is companies operating on razor thin margins despite generating what would seem like a healthy gross income.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 10:27 pm to Aubie Spr96
Yep dropping in shipping is typically one of the very early indications a correction is coming.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:06 pm to LATECHgradLSUfan
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among many others they hauled direct and had multiple relationships on the brokerage side
I worked for one of the larger brokerages at one point in my career. Every time I saw a Celadon truck on one of my loads I knew we were making bank. They hauled for ridiculously low rates.
Posted on 12/9/19 at 11:29 pm to cas4t
The case is one in the federal court in New Orleans dealing with systematic fraud by a number of attorneys.
The idea is that a carload of people meet up, find an 18 wheeler, claim they got hit despite there not being any sign of contact, then everyone in the car suing for injuries.
They may not have been caught if they hadn’t kept using the same hunting grounds for so many 18 wheelers.
A few active lawyers and at least one disbarred lawyer turned medical biller have gotten caught up on it so far.
The idea is that a carload of people meet up, find an 18 wheeler, claim they got hit despite there not being any sign of contact, then everyone in the car suing for injuries.
They may not have been caught if they hadn’t kept using the same hunting grounds for so many 18 wheelers.
A few active lawyers and at least one disbarred lawyer turned medical biller have gotten caught up on it so far.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 6:09 am to teke184
So, if you've got a problem state like Louisiana, can a carrier save money by not insuring in Louisiana and just not driving there at all?
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:07 am to wadewilson
No, I’m saying that the Feds are in the process of putting these assholes out of business, which will drop a significant number of fraudulent claims and may allow trucking companies and insurance companies to claw back payments.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:14 am to Horsemeat
Do they drive in the left lane ?
Not anymore they don't
Not anymore they don't
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:20 am to Horsemeat
I thought there was a shortage of truck drivers in this country. You'd think the industry would be quite profitable in that case.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:20 am to Horsemeat
I wonder if this is why my Chet Baker Riverside box set has yet to reach the website I ordered it from? Was supposed to ship Dec. 6 from website, and they still haven’t received the product. Just stranded out there in some middle America podunk pos town. 
Posted on 12/10/19 at 7:29 am to KiwiHead
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I know most on these boards don't like this, but if these guys were teamsters they would have been protected or at least have gotten an advanced heads up.
If they could read they would have known this was coming.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 7:33 am
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:00 am to AA77
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Shite like this never happened when Jimmy Hoffa and Frank Sheeran were running things.
This happened all the time during those times and before Hoffa was even a Teamster. It was one reason they unionized to begin with but it never stopped. Trucking companies have notoriously been run let’s say “loosely” and owners caused it and sometimes teamsters caused it but this is nothing new.
And the Teamsters didn’t always win their fights. Owners (including mob controlled) had plenty of thugs themselves. I remember strikes in Baton Rouge when the Teamsters Local was shot up on Dallas Drive. That was when Ed Partin (the one who wore the wire that send Hoffa to prison) was the head of the Local.
My father as a business owner,had contracts with every labor union in Louisiana and the mid 60’s to late 70’s were interesting times. Lot of blood spilled all around.
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:06 am to teke184
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The case is one in the federal court in New Orleans dealing with systematic fraud by a number of attorneys.
The idea is that a carload of people meet up, find an 18 wheeler, claim they got hit despite there not being any sign of contact, then everyone in the car suing for injuries.
They may not have been caught if they hadn’t kept using the same hunting grounds for so many 18 wheelers.
A few active lawyers and at least one disbarred lawyer turned medical biller have gotten caught up on it so far.
Jesus Christ.
Unfortunately I don’t believe even something like this will affect the auto liability industry as a whole, even if a lot of these claims are dropped. Certainly carriers in Louisiana have an argument. But we’ve just hit 10 quarters in a row now where insurance companies have lost money on their auto liability policies.
Some of the issues are number of miles driven have increased, the cost of medical care to injured drivers (not just truckers) has increased exponentially, and of course frequency of litigation has increased as well as some sizable verdicts.
This post was edited on 12/10/19 at 9:49 am
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:07 am to Horsemeat
The lack of BR Loop caused this
Posted on 12/10/19 at 8:26 am to Martini
Seconded.
My grandfather was a union electrician in those days and would have to do shite like bring his kids to the work site to retrieve his tools so that the Teamsters wouldn’t think he was crossing the picket, along with telling the kids to NEVER say a word about the Teamsters in front of anyone because kids they went to school with or lived near had Teamster dads or uncles.
There was also a firebombing up the street from his house at the residence of a Partin relative (his brother IIRC) because they thought he was hiding out there at that time.
My grandfather was a union electrician in those days and would have to do shite like bring his kids to the work site to retrieve his tools so that the Teamsters wouldn’t think he was crossing the picket, along with telling the kids to NEVER say a word about the Teamsters in front of anyone because kids they went to school with or lived near had Teamster dads or uncles.
There was also a firebombing up the street from his house at the residence of a Partin relative (his brother IIRC) because they thought he was hiding out there at that time.
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