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re: On Feb 13th Santa Monica is voting on a proposal that could change housing in CA forever

Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:02 am to
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
64785 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:02 am to
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I can't tell if they're too stupid to realize that the "solutions" they're implementing actually make the problem worse, if if they know that and it's intentional...basically the wolf in sheep's clothing.


Your average California leftist voter is that stupid, or more like that indoctrinated. Those in power though are not that stupid. They know what they’re doing.
Posted by lynxcat
Member since Jan 2008
24187 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:04 am to
This just means that people will not rent out properties in that jurisdiction.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26936 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:04 am to
I don’t see how that can stand up to legal challenge.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
30615 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:06 am to
One of the most disgusting things leftists do besides promotion of abortion is vilification of landlords. They preach that landlords are evil and nobody should be able to own multiple properties. This proposal is a step towards that. They want to destroy rental market and force landlords to sell properties at a loss because they end up underwater on mortgage and taxes. They want to bankrupt a lot of honest people just for trying to improve their outlook with secondary income

“You will own nothing”
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 10:13 am
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8639 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:09 am to
A side note to all the other Cali stupidity is they list the max annual increases. If you hit them then thats bad. So, since landlords know the max limits they will increase them every year by about $10 less than max.

Regardless the economy, knowing you can’t raise them enough during bad inflation just means you will raise them every year (by just less than max) no matter what. A Landlord will have to do this to protect from unknown future economy.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:16 am to
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Nope when you can’t afford to rent it out because you don’t have the capital or the attorneys to fight it, don’t worry. Blackrock/Vanguard will swoop right in and snag it.



Their margins and projected margins on rentals will be materially impacted as well. And they'll have to deal with the headaches too at a local level. I could see this having the opposite effect and there just being no real mass of rental properties at all. And it leading to more availability of housing to purchase.

Posted by Swiss Alps
Member since Feb 2024
153 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:19 am to
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A state thats $145b in debt isn’t paying anyone’s bills


they have the 6th highest gdp in the world. Without California and New York, the south doesn't exist.
Posted by jbird7
Central FL
Member since Jul 2020
5256 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:47 am to
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they have the 6th highest gdp in the world. Without California and New York, the south doesn't exist.


And with all that GDP they still can’t even pay their own bills, due to their reckless policies. Yet I’m supposed to believe they’re picking up everyone else’s tabs?

I bet you think strippers like you too.
This post was edited on 2/12/24 at 10:52 am
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8639 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 10:55 am to
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Their margins and projected margins on rentals will be materially impacted as well. And they'll have to deal with the headaches too at a local level. I could see this having the opposite effect and there just being no real mass of rental properties at all. And it leading to more availability of housing to purchase.


Agree with all you said except the last sentence. The cost gap from renting to owning is really huge in Cali. And if higher rents drive renters to try and buy that just increases demands for houses and will push house costs higher.

There is no good outcome to this bill, other than Dems are getting what they voted for.

Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
8639 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:02 am to
From Redfin:

Santa Monica, CA Housing Market
Homes for sale

The Santa Monica housing market is somewhat competitive. Homes in Santa Monica receive 2 offers on average and sell in around 60 days. The median sale price of a home in Santa Monica was $2.0M last month, up 29.9% since last year. The median sale price per square foot in Santa Monica is $1.06K, up 2.6% since last year.

Santa Monica Housing Market Trends
What is the housing market like in Santa Monica today?

In December 2023, Santa Monica home prices were up 29.9% compared to last year, selling for a median price of $2.0M. On average, homes in Santa Monica sell after 60 days on the market compared to 47 days last year. There were 28 homes sold in December this year, down from 40 last year.


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And this from Rentcafe site:

Santa Monica, CA Rental Market Trends
What is the average rent in Santa Monica?

The average rent for an apartment in Santa Monica is $3,956. The cost of rent varies depending on several factors, including location, size, and quality.

Last updated November 2023

What is the average apartment size in Santa Monica?

The average size for a Santa Monica, CA apartment is 769 square feet, but this number varies greatly depending on unit type, with cheap and luxury alternatives for houses and apartments alike. Studio apartments are the smallest and most affordable, 1-bedroom apartments are closer to the average, while 2-bedroom apartments and 3-bedroom apartments offer a more generous square footage.

Santa Monica, CA Occupied Housing Units

33,344 or 71% of the households in Santa Monica, CA are renter-occupied while 13,320 or 29% are owner-occupied.

Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
13710 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:07 am to
I just think a lot of rental properties will hit the market as margins decrease and headache increases. Direction of prices on those properties are hard to predict.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30257 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:13 am to
Private property rights are the least respected rights in modern America.
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8294 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:17 am to
I hope they do it. You have to let them sink to the bottom before they realize they are wrong. Like these sanctuary cities now being forced to ask Biden to close the border because it’s killing by their city.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68926 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:21 am to
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One of the most disgusting things leftists do besides promotion of abortion is vilification of landlords.


You have to realize these people are marxists. they have infiltrated everything.

The goal is to get rid of private property.

Posted by Hangit
The Green Swamp
Member since Aug 2014
39233 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 11:25 am to
Individuals that own rental units are generally pretty good taxpayers. If you bully their pockets, they eventually sell, move out of the state, and you have nothing left but those feckless, perennially holding their hands out for more people.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30257 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:00 pm to
Yep, in five years that city will be crying about the lack of rental units available. The same type dipshits that created a housing mess in NYC with rent control dreamed up this bullshite.

If Democrats started a program to grow crabgrass, there wouldn't be a single blade of it in a farmer's field anywhere in America within a decade.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
99141 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:32 pm to
Apparently, the city attorney is unfamiliar with the 5th Amendment and the idea of a constructive taking
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
19313 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:37 pm to
They gonna repeal the 5 foot fence law for pools?
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52916 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 12:39 pm to
This is how you create a ghost town. Good job libtards.
Posted by Koach K
Member since Nov 2016
4115 posts
Posted on 2/12/24 at 1:00 pm to
Rent control was used to wipe out the middle class in Germany following WWI.

John Adams was right.
This post was edited on 2/13/24 at 5:05 am
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