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re: OKLA man sentenced to 15 years for cocaine possession. It was powdered milk

Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:11 pm to
Posted by Proximo
Member since Aug 2011
21994 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:11 pm to
Intent is an element of many crimes.. it really wouldn’t surprise me if a fact pattern showed up where you could be convicted in similar circumstances
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
171954 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:13 pm to
Referring to this part:

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15 years or he may renounce his citizenship and be given 30 days to get his affairs in order, and given a one way flight to any other country that will have him.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
65134 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:13 pm to
Dude just picked up a full ride at Georgia Southern
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:13 pm to
If you're homeless, is it dumb to want to go to prison?
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49476 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:14 pm to
He didnt know.

He bought it under the assumption it was real, but got ripped off.

Posted by JBeam
Guns,Germs & Steel
Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:17 pm to
He plead guilty, which makes me think he mistakenly thought it was actually cocaine (until lab results proved him wrong). Yes, it is possible he knew it was milk the whole time and plead guilty regardless, but that is a stretch in these specific facts. We aren't talking a coerced confession upon arrest, this is a guilty plea months later. I guess if he knew it was milk, and didn't say anything, we have a clear cut competency issue.


Side note, silly enough, he goes to prison in many state's for selling the powdered milk regardless if he knew it wasn't cocaine, if he sells the milk "as cocaine."
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
61254 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:17 pm to
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Confessions may not be reliable.


Considering how the cops and prosecutors go at people they absolutely are not. It's a guarantee he was told he could plead guilty and take 15 years or go to court and risk getting life.

It's fairly common for people who aren't well off, have a poor understanding of the legal system, and are scared as hell they could be locked up for life will take the deal even if they are innocent.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104292 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:18 pm to
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So... why did he plead guilty if he knew it was powdered milk?


False confessions are a thing. People will confess to crimes that it would have been physically impossible for them to commit. Police interrogation techniques are finely honed and get results, sometimes from innocent people. Plenty of youtubes about this if you're curious.
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
7120 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:23 pm to
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False confessions are a thing. People will confess to crimes that it would have been physically impossible for them to commit. Police interrogation techniques are finely honed and get results, sometimes from innocent people. Plenty of youtubes about this if you're curious.


While this is true, only a weak person would plead guilty to a crime they didn't really commit. I'm sure there are some extravagant examples where it's possibly better to just plead than to fight it. My morals, values, and general principles would never allow me to do such a thing.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133271 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:25 pm to
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Side note, silly enough, he goes to prison in many state's for selling the powdered milk regardless if he knew it wasn't cocaine, if he sells the milk "as cocaine."

Goes great with toot loops
Posted by FightnBobLafollette
Member since Oct 2017
12204 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:26 pm to
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you're homeless, is it dumb to want to go to prison?


Yes.

Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
103114 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:28 pm to
Follow your nose!
Posted by magildachunks
Member since Oct 2006
34946 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:41 pm to
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Inside the baggie was a large amount of white powder substance that I believed to be cocaine based on my training and experience," the officer stated. "The white powder inside the baggy later tested positive for cocaine and was a total package weight of 45.91 grams of cocaine."




Every drug test this cop has done will now be called into question and appealed.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
Member since Sep 2012
30598 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:46 pm to
The baw tried to buy coke from tyrone and Jerome, and he got powdered Milk.


As bad as a guy i know buying some crack downtown, and the brutha sold his drywall. LOL

Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40577 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:49 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:50 pm to
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Why did he plead guilty?


Happens more often than you think.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58834 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:55 pm to
I would guess he had no chance of posting bail and was told by a lawyer that taking a guilty plea would reduce his sentence and get him out of the system quicker. He wouldn’t be the first to get baited into innocently pleading guilty

If a homeless guy actually thought he came across 45 grams of cocaine and didn’t know better I would question his judgement on how to plead from the start
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
51480 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 6:09 pm to
Calm down hard arse
Posted by shinerfan
Duckworld(Earth-616)
Member since Sep 2009
28095 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 6:15 pm to
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Only thing that makes sense, he thought it was real and that’s why he pled. But how did the test on it take so long that he was able to go through getting a lawyer, pleading, and being sentenced before results came back?!





Or the real coke walked out of the evidence room.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58834 posts
Posted on 10/17/19 at 6:16 pm to
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Every drug test this cop has done will now be called into question and appealed.


There was a cop in January that falsely tested a guys laundry detergent for heroin and gave the dude trafficking charges. When they found out the cop lied, he was fired and they found out 11 other people were in jail because of him. So fricked up

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