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re: OKLA man sentenced to 15 years for cocaine possession. It was powdered milk
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:11 pm to TH03
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:11 pm to TH03
Intent is an element of many crimes.. it really wouldn’t surprise me if a fact pattern showed up where you could be convicted in similar circumstances
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:13 pm to Proximo
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15 years or he may renounce his citizenship and be given 30 days to get his affairs in order, and given a one way flight to any other country that will have him.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:13 pm to Proximo
Dude just picked up a full ride at Georgia Southern
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:13 pm to JBeam
If you're homeless, is it dumb to want to go to prison?
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:14 pm to teke184
He didnt know.
He bought it under the assumption it was real, but got ripped off.
He bought it under the assumption it was real, but got ripped off.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:17 pm to SEClint
He plead guilty, which makes me think he mistakenly thought it was actually cocaine (until lab results proved him wrong). Yes, it is possible he knew it was milk the whole time and plead guilty regardless, but that is a stretch in these specific facts. We aren't talking a coerced confession upon arrest, this is a guilty plea months later. I guess if he knew it was milk, and didn't say anything, we have a clear cut competency issue.
Side note, silly enough, he goes to prison in many state's for selling the powdered milk regardless if he knew it wasn't cocaine, if he sells the milk "as cocaine."
Side note, silly enough, he goes to prison in many state's for selling the powdered milk regardless if he knew it wasn't cocaine, if he sells the milk "as cocaine."
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:17 pm to TrueTiger
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Confessions may not be reliable.
Considering how the cops and prosecutors go at people they absolutely are not. It's a guarantee he was told he could plead guilty and take 15 years or go to court and risk getting life.
It's fairly common for people who aren't well off, have a poor understanding of the legal system, and are scared as hell they could be locked up for life will take the deal even if they are innocent.
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:18 pm to teke184
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So... why did he plead guilty if he knew it was powdered milk?
False confessions are a thing. People will confess to crimes that it would have been physically impossible for them to commit. Police interrogation techniques are finely honed and get results, sometimes from innocent people. Plenty of youtubes about this if you're curious.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:23 pm to Jim Rockford
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False confessions are a thing. People will confess to crimes that it would have been physically impossible for them to commit. Police interrogation techniques are finely honed and get results, sometimes from innocent people. Plenty of youtubes about this if you're curious.
While this is true, only a weak person would plead guilty to a crime they didn't really commit. I'm sure there are some extravagant examples where it's possibly better to just plead than to fight it. My morals, values, and general principles would never allow me to do such a thing.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:25 pm to JBeam
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Side note, silly enough, he goes to prison in many state's for selling the powdered milk regardless if he knew it wasn't cocaine, if he sells the milk "as cocaine."
Goes great with toot loops
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:26 pm to dcrews
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you're homeless, is it dumb to want to go to prison?
Yes.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:41 pm to JBeam
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Inside the baggie was a large amount of white powder substance that I believed to be cocaine based on my training and experience," the officer stated. "The white powder inside the baggy later tested positive for cocaine and was a total package weight of 45.91 grams of cocaine."
Every drug test this cop has done will now be called into question and appealed.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:46 pm to JBeam
The baw tried to buy coke from tyrone and Jerome, and he got powdered Milk.
As bad as a guy i know buying some crack downtown, and the brutha sold his drywall. LOL
As bad as a guy i know buying some crack downtown, and the brutha sold his drywall. LOL
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:49 pm to Steadyhands
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This post was edited on 10/18/19 at 1:02 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:50 pm to TH03
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Why did he plead guilty?
Happens more often than you think.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 5:55 pm to TH03
I would guess he had no chance of posting bail and was told by a lawyer that taking a guilty plea would reduce his sentence and get him out of the system quicker. He wouldn’t be the first to get baited into innocently pleading guilty
If a homeless guy actually thought he came across 45 grams of cocaine and didn’t know better I would question his judgement on how to plead from the start
If a homeless guy actually thought he came across 45 grams of cocaine and didn’t know better I would question his judgement on how to plead from the start
This post was edited on 10/17/19 at 5:59 pm
Posted on 10/17/19 at 6:15 pm to CollegeFBRules
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Only thing that makes sense, he thought it was real and that’s why he pled. But how did the test on it take so long that he was able to go through getting a lawyer, pleading, and being sentenced before results came back?!
Or the real coke walked out of the evidence room.
Posted on 10/17/19 at 6:16 pm to magildachunks
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Every drug test this cop has done will now be called into question and appealed.
There was a cop in January that falsely tested a guys laundry detergent for heroin and gave the dude trafficking charges. When they found out the cop lied, he was fired and they found out 11 other people were in jail because of him. So fricked up
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