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re: OK, I'm going to say it.....

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Posted by I Bleed Garnet
Cullman, AL
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:24 am to
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Not anyone who matters

Yea okay

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Central Time is the only time zone where

Posted by ElderTiger
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2010
7882 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:43 am to
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. I think that the protests should be in the black communities addressing black on black crime.


I believe that, in large part, these current protests are so they can avoid dealing with the much larger problem of crime in the black communities.
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3459 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:45 am to
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that's all democrats are good for, "good intentions"


As the saying goes, the road to Hell is paved with good intentions.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 6:59 am to
4% of black homicides are from police officers

12% of white homicides are from police officers

I want you to really think about that. It pretty much sums up the entire issue. The more violent crime the more police have to interact with and apprehend violent people. These people are the most likely to be shot. And for every violent black murder less blacks are killed by cops than whites.

Posted by Dontbearichard
Lafayette
Member since Sep 2018
159 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:01 am to
When you have over 70% of children being brought up in a fatherless household with little to no guidance, the inevitable result is economic distress which leads to a life of crime. That’s where the problem starts but no one wants to address it. So why is it the white man’s fault that the majority of these kids turn to crime and thus are being arrested by the “racist” cops? They bring this upon themselves due to the life choices they make, end of discussion.
Posted by Clockwatcher68
Youngsville
Member since May 2006
8298 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:06 am to
We are at each other’s throats again. Another win for the progressive news and entertainment media.
Posted by Crusty
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
2780 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:23 am to
Dude, did you not see Friday? Craig (Ice Cube) had a father at home and he was still out gang-banging so your argument holds no water.
Posted by NIH
Member since Aug 2008
125140 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:41 am to
Good to see noted independent Sao still battling the mean Republicans all night on the internet
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:47 am to
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And how do people not see through this? I know this is a stupid question, but damn, this astonishes me.


They do, but as long as Democrats keep passing Bills that account for handing out "walking around money", they will pretend no to.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:47 am to
Because the Social Media Mob are starting to make the Nazis blush.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14069 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:48 am to
This is from a research article (2019) that was very well done and is worth reading.

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One of our clearest results is that violent crime rates strongly predict the race of a person fatally shot. At a high level, reducing race-specific violent crime should be an effective way to reduce fatal shootings of Black and Hispanic adults. Of course, this is no simple task—crime rates are the result of a large and dynamic set of forces. However, the magnitude of these disparities speaks to the importance of this idea. In counties where minorities committed higher rates of violent crime, a person fatally shot was 3.3 times more likely to be Hispanic than White and 3.7 times more likely to be Black than White. This suggests that reducing disparities in FOIS will require identifying and changing the socio-historical factors that lead civilians to commit violent crime (20).


m Link to the article.
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:50 am to
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They have harassed them and hunted them down for petty shite for decades. Jailed them, ensnared them in webs of criminal proceedings with which they had no hope to contend.


No....

Young black men keep fking up because they are BORN into a system of Single-Motherhood that causes them to adopt a lifestyle of bad behavior.
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 7:54 am to
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The police are the front line of America’s morbid industrial prison complex, and blacks are the most unfortunate victims. They have harassed them and hunted them down for petty shite for decades. Jailed them, ensnared them in webs of criminal proceedings with which they had no hope to contend. They broke up their families, made them unemployable. Black Americans have been the targets of much harassment at the hands of institutional crime and punishment policies. The statistics are overwhelming. With that frequency of contact comes greater risk of fatality.


It's largely because of this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oDHSt-CKtc
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24958 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:00 am to
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there is no systemic problem with white cops brutalizing or killing black people. It's a lie. And it is easily proven false. So everything going on right now is, well, pointless.

I am not a racist. But I feel strongly about this. I think that the protests should be in the black communities addressing black on black crime.

I don't post much, I mostly lurk. And upon my lurking I must say that a poster I respect is QJenk. Q, I would like to hear your opinion on my statement.


Well I am not Q, but.... lol I agree 100%. John Huckabee divided the number of unarmed black men killed by police (5) by total number of black men.
A black man has same statistical chance of dying in a bathtub of scalding hot water as he does being killed by a white police officer.

I dont care what anyone calls me. These stupid fricking liberals are delusional and fanatical. Anyone refusing to participate in their insanity they label and attack.
One black man dies and a fricking "movement" to disband police is created. Have we lost our fricking minds?
If us majority of normal people continue to let this unravel, this country will be a huge wasteland of pathetic pussies.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30308 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:03 am to
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And how do people not see through this?


Because the welfare checks keep showing up in the mail and the food stamp cards continue to be replenished.
Posted by SouthEndzoneTiger
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2008
11679 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:05 am to
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Well I am not Q, but.... lol I agree 100%.


Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
23422 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:13 am to
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Dude, did you not see Friday? Craig (Ice Cube) had a father at home and he was still out gang-banging so your argument holds no water.


Bruh his dad was the one that told him to put the gun down and his dukes up. His dad gave him the lesson when he found the gun and literally told him to put the gun down when he has the opportunity to kill Deebo. His dad isn’t there and he pulls the trigger.

The only serious bit of that movie was the father figure intervening in gun violence

Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67026 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:35 am to
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4% of black homicides are from police officers

12% of white homicides are from police officers


Both of these numbers seem incredibly high. You're saying 1 in 8 white people who are murdered are murdered by a policeman? I don't believe that at all
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88463 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:43 am to
It’s true based on the statistics I found on the fbi site for 2017.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88463 posts
Posted on 6/9/20 at 8:44 am to
Here is what I have compiled from 2017:

Total Population: 325,100,00
White Population: 249,620,00 (76.8%)
Black Population: 43,500,000 (13.4%)

Total Violent Crimes: 404,236
White Violent Crimes: 236,590 (58.5%)
Black Violent Crimes: 151,744 (37.5%)

Total Deaths by Cop: 987
White Deaths: 457 (46.3%)
Black Deaths: 223 (22.6%)

Total Black Homicide Victims: 2970
White Offender: 264 (8.9%)
Black Offender: 2627 (88.5%)

Total White Homicide Victims: 3567
White Offender: 2861 (80.2%)
Black Offender: 576 (16.1%)

So that's the raw data and here's what we can extrapolate from it:

1) Blacks are more likely to commit a violent crime which leads to more police contacts. The numbers show that they're 3.7 times more likely to commit a violent crime than whites. So if the narrative is that blacks are being hunted and killed more often by police, we would expect to see them killed 4 times or more than whites. But we don't. Blacks are just 2.8 times more likely to be killed by a cop. BTW, the death rate by cop for a black person is 0.00051%.

2) Blacks are 11.8 times more likely to be killed by another black than a cop. Whites are 6.3 times more likely to be killed by another white than a cop. That's a huge disparity.

3) Here is maybe the most telling stat: A black person killed at the hands of another person... 6.98% chance that person is a cop... 82.3% chance that person is another black person. Whereas, for a white person killed... 11.36% chance that person is a cop... 71.1% chance that person is white.


The conclusion here, which I'm sure many of you already suspected, is that cops DO NOT disproportionately hunt and kill black people. If anything, as this exercise and the studies have shown, blacks are killed LESS than whites on a per-interaction basis.
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