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re: Oil And Gas Executives Say It's Not Joe Biden Holding Back Domestic Production

Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by Nado Jenkins83
Land of the Free
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:40 pm to
Some are. Client we were just working for was grossing 60 million a month. And they were way below the standard for being efficient. I still think they laundering money.
Posted by BurningHeart
Member since Jan 2017
9957 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:40 pm to
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6803 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:42 pm to
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Investors worry that Joe Biden and the Democrats could step in at any time and totally destroy their investment.


No, they dont. They worry about the historical price of crude oil, which is shite, as seen in my previous post. I get 90% of the people on this board are super lovey dovey with trump and by default hate biden, but he isnt to blame for lack of investment in oil and gas and if youve paid attention to the industry for even a second the last 7 years you might have a clue of this
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:44 pm to
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Posted by SlidellTiger
Madisonville, La
Member since Jan 2004
1552 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:44 pm to
BS
Posted by hubertcumberdale
Member since Nov 2009
6803 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:46 pm to
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BS



holy shite, this response





Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12449 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 5:47 pm to
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You can literally see the price per barrel of oil going up continuously right after the election. What a coincidence.


The very loud minority screaming that all was lost and oil would skyrocket after losing the election probably did it’s part too

Lots of contributing factors
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
2087 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:01 pm to
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Yes, I'm sure an administration that had us as a net exporter of OG for the first time, what, ever was it, is "a lot of the same"


Our biggest constraints of late are finding oil cheaply while maintaining or increasing shareholder return. Its been that way since oil first tanked 8 years ago and there is no more easy oil to find. That's why I said read my above post. There are ins and outs to every administration. Maybe the oil company you work for does it differently?
Posted by msap9020
Texas
Member since Feb 2015
2087 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:04 pm to
And guess what, the Keystone pipeline hurt the Canadians more than anyone. Believe me I know. I was up there for 7 years building an oil sands project that was supposed to utilize the Keystone pipeline. Talk about F your cost of supply when you transition from pipeline to trucking to get your product to market.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61268 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:05 pm to
My assumption is that there is still easy oil to get to, but those areas are off limits
Posted by bluedragon
Birmingham
Member since May 2020
8938 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:14 pm to
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The top reason domestic energy production hasn’t ramped up isn’t Joe Biden’s green energy agenda, according to oil company executives. Instead, it’s a lack of enthusiasm from investors.


It serves your liberal socialist agenda far more when you don't post an attachment that proves not one bit of the first paragraph is true. Try reading the actual report before proving the highest grade ever achieved was that of the "Special Needs Class" while riding the short bus to the zoo everyday.
Posted by cypresstiger
The South
Member since Aug 2008
13380 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:14 pm to
Of course they say this. They know Uncle Joe will hammer their industry even more if they criticize him publicly .
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
38362 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:24 pm to
So many in denial and ignorant in this thread. The industry vaporized hundreds of billions of investor capital over the past decade and you're surprised people don't want to invest?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41292 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:26 pm to
1&4 and 3&5 are the same thing.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41292 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:27 pm to
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Do you think ESG investors wouldn’t exist without a D in the White House? These same pressures existed during the Trump presidency as well…


Yeah and we saw increased pressure for companies like shell and BP to be carbon neutral in order to maintain operating/trading in Europe.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12629 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:30 pm to
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No, they dont. They worry about the historical price of crude oil, which is shite, as seen in my previous post.

It always amazes me how oblivious this Louisiana-centric board is whenever oil prices come up. It’s like people have been living under a rock for the past 8 years. 3 weeks of >$100 oil don’t make up for 8 years of pain in the industry.

A couple of comments in the OP’s survey link that sum up the point pretty well:
quote:

Discipline continues to dominate the industry. Shareholders and lenders continue to demand a return on capital, and until it becomes unavoidably obvious that high energy prices will sustain, there will be no exploration spending.
quote:

In this upcycle, investors have made it clear they wanted to see discipline from all players. So far, E&Ps for the most are exhibiting capital discipline. A significant part of E&P capital spending growth this year (2022 versus 2021) will be consumed by cost inflation as the cost for all inputs continues to increase against a backdrop of supply-chain challenges and limited incremental equipment being reactivated (due to fiscal constraints and manpower challenges within oilfield services and related suppliers).
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The probability distribution of prices is now more weighted toward lower prices for several reasons. First, at some point, the Russia–Ukraine war may cause demand destruction. Second, renewed city shutdowns in China indicate that COVID-19 could cause another recession in conjunction with the impacts of the Russia–Ukraine war. Third, a return to “normalcy” without precautionary buying due to the Russia–Ukraine war will remove some of the added demand that has fueled higher oil prices over the past several months.

In other words, there is a ton of price risk/uncertainty right now. Oil might continue to climb. But it could also crash again in the near future. Hence the word discipline. Nobody wants to be the one left holding the bag during the next downturn. So O&G companies are taking profits and focusing on low-risk investments. It’s going to take sustained $100+ oil (meaning months if not years) for capital investment to go back to pre-2014 levels.

So yes, ESG and regulatory issues make a difference - as reflected by the survey responses/comments on those topics. But that’s not what these execs are talking about when they refer to “pressure to maintain capital discipline.”
Posted by TheHarahanian
Actually not Harahan as of 6/2023
Member since May 2017
22969 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:36 pm to

I hold O&G stock, and I want them to drill into this planet until it walks funny.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41292 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:38 pm to
Wall Street also made a shift 3-4 years ago to wanting free cash flow over market share. That’s also leading to greater capital discipline
Posted by Barbellthor
Columbia
Member since Aug 2015
10798 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:41 pm to
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Our biggest constraints of late are finding oil cheaply while maintaining or increasing shareholder return. Its been that way since oil first tanked 8 years ago

Yea, that has nothing to do with whether one administration or another is more or less friendly to OG, which is the point being made.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15402 posts
Posted on 3/24/22 at 6:44 pm to
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Instead, it’s a lack of enthusiasm from investors.

We are one stupid arse fricking country.
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