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re: Obesity is a choice
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:12 am to Duke
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:12 am to Duke
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Some will argue its the healthcare costs we all have to eat...
but really its the getting off on moral superiority that gets them in these threads.
Usually the people most vocal about the obese are frumpy looking skinny fat themselves and not actually fit, or they have been zoinked out on Adderall with 0 appetite because of it since they were 12 years old and think they accomplished something by staying skinny on meth
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Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:14 am to Knuckle Checker
Posted on 8/26/24 at 11:24 am to Duke
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Im blessed that I can eat two slices of pizza and be satisfied for hours. It isnt discipline, its how Ive always been.
Same. I'm very lucky that I've always had a small appetite naturally. When I first learned that some people order a large pizza on a Friday night and end up finishing the entire thing throughout the course of the night, I didn't believe it.
When I was a broke college student, I could buy a $5 Hot n Ready and eat on that thing for dinner Monday-Thursday. quote:
Its almost like our biology wants to make us fat and we're all generally fighting that nature now that we have such an excess of cheap calories.
One big eye opener for me as I learned about calories and nutrition is how much sauces, dressings, and cooking oils totally screw people.
The good news is that in 2024, most high calorie products have a low calorie swap you can use. The bad news is most people have no idea that's the case so they're consuming 1000 calories a week in stuff like mayo or salad dressing.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 2:00 am to Limitlesstigers
Oh I have. And have been around a lot longer than you by the sound of things.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:08 am to Loup
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True, but they got there by making poor choices.
They eat because they are unhappy, and they are unhappy because they eat.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:15 am to AUCom96
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Some of you are very obsessed about this subject on here.
To be fair, the ramifications for the current obesity epidemic are more far reaching than just about everything else going on in the world.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:16 am to Duke
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Its almost like our biology wants to make us fat and we're all generally fighting that nature now that we have such an excess of cheap calories.
Eating is the strongest addiction we know of, because it's a literal natural instinct. What we've found over the past 30 years or so is that our brain can easily be re-wired within the realm of eating, too, altering the base line of satiation. Due to this, outside forces can easily warp eating habits completely. Trauma, learned behaviors (from family, typically), etc. influence this.
And like someone else said, it's not like an outside input that someone is addicted to. We don't have to interact daily with meth or gambling, for instance. We have to eat.
This is just one of those scenarios within the history of humanity where society went a little off course and we have to reign it back in a bit. We're doing the same thing with screens and social media, too.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:26 am to yellowfin
quote:And public conveyances (fats on the plane), theaters, arenas, restaurants, etc, access to healthcare is clogged by fatties, healthcare resources are diverted to fatty-related maladies rather than to problems of normal* humans.
Short answer is it affects our insurance premiums
Society in general: taken to the extreme- would any rational person want to be in a society where 100% of people took care of themselves or 100% of people abused themselves?
I’ll hang up and listen.
*Fatties are abnormal. Folks don’t want to say this nowadays. Just because there’s many more of them per capita doesn’t make them normal, it only makes them more plentiful.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:27 am to soccerfüt
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Fatties are abnormal. Folks don’t want to say this nowadays. Just because there’s many more of them per capita doesn’t make them normal, it only makes them more plentiful.
No it makes them more normal, but normal doesn't mean automatically good.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Strictly speaking from a statistical perspective I agree with your definition of “norm”.
My point was that they are not medically appropriate, pardon my crappy comment.
My point was that they are not medically appropriate, pardon my crappy comment.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:38 am to soccerfüt
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My point was that they are not medically appropriate,
I already covered this
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but normal doesn't mean automatically good.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 7:40 am to SlowFlowPro
We’ve now already covered several things together.
Cumbauya….
Cumbauya….
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:05 am to bazeball
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It works by making you feel full (satiety), lowering insulin levels, and increasing metabolism. It's not magic, but definitely more effective that just lowering calories.
The study doesn’t show that the drug increases metabolism; the study shows that those who lose weight while on the drug show increased metabolism in relation to the amount of weight they’ve lost. From your link:
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The more weight they lost, the more their metabolisms seemed to be affected, and people with a sluggish metabolism at the beginning of the study seemed to experience the most benefits.
A longer form article about the study: LINK
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“It always seemed oversimplistic to me that these new treatments were just making people eat less. So this study finding is an exciting step forward in our understanding of how these new medicines for obesity work. The findings also provide science to support the fact that the treatment of obesity is not simply to eat less and move more – that’s the prevention piece – treatment is more complex than that.”
Emphasis mine. Low metabolism doesn’t cause obesity; obesity causes low metabolism. Low metabolism then makes it harder to lose the weight once obese. But as the weight comes off, metabolism goes back up, making subsequent weight loss easier.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:26 am to Joshjrn
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eat pizza, just don't eat all of the pizza
Pizza is so good though.....
I've lost 25 pounds. I've cut out breakfast, eating fast food, soft drinks, and over eating. I just don't need the amount of calories that 3 meals a day gives you. I do a workout in the morning 5 days a week. Some days I really get after it, and some days I just do something. I take a walk in the evenings. I try not to eat dinner after 6:30. I feel stronger and healthier than I have in a decade. It's not that hard, but you have to make the decision to make a lifestyle change. I could do waaaaaaaaaaaaay more.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:28 am to SteveLSU35
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I've cut out breakfast
Literally one of the first things I pitch to people who want to lose weight. The "eating breakfast helps you lose weight!" line is De Beers diamonds levels of marketing bullshite.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:30 am to VolSquatch
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Usually the people most vocal about the obese are frumpy looking skinny fat themselves and not actually fit, or they have been zoinked out on Adderall with 0 appetite because of it since they were 12 years old and think they accomplished something by staying skinny on meth
Say whatever you have to say to make yourself feel better
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:33 am to GetCocky11
man there is a lot of stuipid shite posted in this thread by people are either stupid or trying to cope...honestly on both sides
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:38 am to lsu777
This board used to be universally anti-fat, it is crazy to see the shifting sentiments in many posters.
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:43 am to Duke
quote:ISWYDT
its the healthcare costs we all have to eat...
Posted on 8/27/24 at 8:43 am to lsu777
777,
Ive got to say I made two changes in my 30s that have helped it stay easy to be thin.
I upped my protein intake about 40%. Basic strength training 4x a week (basic compound motions: bench, squat, deadlift, ect).
First piece of advice Id give anyone who wants to start a healthier journey.
Ive got to say I made two changes in my 30s that have helped it stay easy to be thin.
I upped my protein intake about 40%. Basic strength training 4x a week (basic compound motions: bench, squat, deadlift, ect).
First piece of advice Id give anyone who wants to start a healthier journey.
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