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re: Number of Americans working for federal government falls to lowest level since 1966
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:41 pm to UtahCajun
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:41 pm to UtahCajun
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UtahCajun
None of those links support anything you are saying
No worries though I blame the eating.
ETA: the second link has a pie graph that shows the breakdown by industry. Shows most are in IT
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:44 pm to gaetti15
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Natural resource folks have alittle bit more of an issue because the private sector consulting jobs arent in the same universe of jobs that the state and/or federal government typically has done historically.
Plus the consultants aren't going to hire someone to do a job that won't be necessary in the near future as they're likely looking to cut staff as well. (Going to be a big blow to firms that are heavily involved in 401/404 CWA permitting.)
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:46 pm to UtahCajun
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They do not hurt middle class as much as people driving wages of the middle class down. The overwhelming majority of H1B jobs are above middle class.
So they take jobs that middle class people could work their way up and elevate themselves into improving their financial status.
Not sure your helping your argument here.
H1B should be severely restricted to the point of shutting it down. Americans should be filling those jobs.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:46 pm to JoylessMurderball
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I voted for this.
#metoo. We need to cut it further. All govt needs cutting and DOGE.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 12:59 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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Plus the consultants aren't going to hire someone to do a job that won't be necessary in the near future as they're likely looking to cut staff as well. (Going to be a big blow to firms that are heavily involved in 401/404 CWA permitting.)
Correct.
Most of the funding for natural resource management/monitoring is driven by Federal and State monies via grants, etc. Makes sense given they are public resources.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Almost ALL GS employees, what many call federal employees (there are several different schedules of employees depending on agency), are employed in some type of oversight roll which exists to provide some control over government contractors and other government agencies. Somewhere in the neighborhood of 70% of federal positions exist as some form of oversight. Things like looking at the O rings used in military aircraft to ensure they meet specifications and reviewing invoices and payroll records to ensure tax payers ain't being robbed. These are the positions that are losing people....people who earn a living basically keeping contractors and government agencies from robbing taxpayers. They have been woefully understaffed and underpaid for years and now they are vilified and treated like parasites. This is not by accident. If your goal is to steal from the taxpayer the easiest way to avoid detection is to eliminate the poor bastard making $80k a year, who has the job because he served in the military and was qualified, so he can't identify you for the miscreant you are. This is a defunding of the police on a GRAND SCALE and it is intentional. Government contractors love a big old bloated federal contract even when it has oversight provisions....they love that same contract without any such provision infinitely more.
I worked on a federal project 5 years ago which had been ongoing 18 years then at somewhere around $2 billion per year. Over that 18 year span 4 different federal contractors, consisting of a patnership of 3-6 of the biggest names in federal design / build firms...HUGE, massive and well known companies....and ever last one of them had been sued multiple times by that project for false billing....to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars a year. The government overseers identified this fraud immediately, it took the justice department many years each time to bring the cases and settle them because these massive contractors are as connected politically as any entity could possibly be. At the end of the day the GS11 -15 federal employers did their job...identified the fraud....the problem arose when the contractor whined. The elected officials listened. The people losing their jobs are the GS11 - 15, not the elected officials and not the contractor execs. Without the people who are losing their jobs the fraud would have gone undetected for years. Thats why they villify those people....they keep them from stealing as much as they want....
I worked on a federal project 5 years ago which had been ongoing 18 years then at somewhere around $2 billion per year. Over that 18 year span 4 different federal contractors, consisting of a patnership of 3-6 of the biggest names in federal design / build firms...HUGE, massive and well known companies....and ever last one of them had been sued multiple times by that project for false billing....to the tune of BILLIONS of dollars a year. The government overseers identified this fraud immediately, it took the justice department many years each time to bring the cases and settle them because these massive contractors are as connected politically as any entity could possibly be. At the end of the day the GS11 -15 federal employers did their job...identified the fraud....the problem arose when the contractor whined. The elected officials listened. The people losing their jobs are the GS11 - 15, not the elected officials and not the contractor execs. Without the people who are losing their jobs the fraud would have gone undetected for years. Thats why they villify those people....they keep them from stealing as much as they want....
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:02 pm to 50_Tiger
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Private sector being flooded by H1B.
I went to Costco yesterday and didn’t feel like I was gonna get blown up or step in poop for the first time in a long time but maybe I went on America day
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:08 pm to Fat and Happy
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It’s messed up when i see things how people with masters degrees and even double masters that had a federal job will go through one of those government situations where an office shuts down and they are out of work and spend 6 months to a year trying to find a job. That’s insane.
Government jobs do not translate well to the private sector. Fact.
Workload, expectations etc. are overwhelming for these folks as they work stress free jobs that don’t miss payroll.
This post was edited on 2/11/26 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:13 pm to AwgustaDawg
I have a family member who works in the contracts section for a State agency. It's ridiculous the amount of times I hear about a contractor or parish losing their shite because they have to amend their scope of work to reflect the actual work to be done.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I took the Deferred Resignation Program (DFR) last Feb since I qualified and retired on 31 Dec 25. Now I am doing the same job as a contractor in the same area and happy. But not everyone that left is as happy as I am but I do wish them well.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:21 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
I voted for that.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:31 pm to c on z
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Private sector may not have the capacity for them unfortunately.
I'm sure the private sector is lining up to land the talents and work ethic of the laid off government workers.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 1:45 pm to jizzle6609
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Government jobs do not translate well to the private sector. Fact.
Workload, expectations etc. are overwhelming for these folks as they work stress free jobs that don’t miss payroll.
Once again depends on the sector. For most jobs that have equal functions in both private and government.
But some sectors have always been a function of the government (state or fed) so when those people get let go theres nothing directly equivalent to that field in the private sector.
That's where people will fall through the cracks
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:04 pm to wheelr
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Now we need to decentralize all the federal workers from the DC/Virginia area. Spread some of the department headquarters out around the country.
Cool.
Huntsville, Alabama is closed.
If they send more to this area I am going to hold you personally responsible.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:22 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
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I have a family member who works in the contracts section for a State agency. It's ridiculous the amount of times I hear about a contractor or parish losing their shite because they have to amend their scope of work to reflect the actual work to be done.
It is all day every day. The contractors have fleets of people hired, charged to the government, whose sole purpose at work is to find ways to cut corners, commit fraud adjacent activity and to find a way to climb a tree to get around a requirement when they could stand on the ground and comply and make more money in the process. The government employee, vilified and cussed soundly, is the ONLY line of defense between the contractor and the taxpayer. These are functions, by the way, that the government is the sole entity capable of providing.....we do not want Bechtel Engineering to hold the nations nuclear arsenal in their warehouse....we don't want the United States Marine Corp to be managed by Fluor or AECOM. We also do not want the Marines to be tied up doing what Bechtel does and is an expert at doing....but that requires someone minding the store and that is most likely a GS 13, making about $120K a year, who most likely is a veteran, who could be making double that in the private sector...and who is vilified as a parasite by the taxpayer for doing the job they were hired to do and keep contractors as honest as possible.
I work as a consultant with a federal agency. The work this agency does is the ONLY thing keeping the globe secure and they are not the DOD. I am a one-man contractor. I do not have a fleet of attorneys on retainer to fight this agency should I try to steal from them so I do not try to do so....that and I have to look at the face I shave, when I shave. This agency has to make me jump through an enormous bureaucracy to do anything because over time they have had to install guard rails that apply to me and Bechtel alike. At times my services include auditing contractors like Bechtel....there aren't near enough government employees to do it, there aren't enough to keep me honest. Not financial auditing but process and quality audits. I have NEVER performed an audit where there were not SIGNIFICANT findings that would negatively impact the mission of this agency. That should not be an independent, third party function....I am happy it is but it ought not be....it should be a government employee doing it. Today there are even more opportunities for me because there fewer government employees....instead of having one or 2 locally who keep me in line there are 5 in Cincinnati keeping hundreds of me in line. This is not studying mating habits of chipmunks...this is a vital national security agency with some seriously dangerous shite. And some folks are happy as clams that fewer people are minding the store. Its pure insanity but it is where we are.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 2:30 pm to brewhan davey
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Now, let's fix our federal government's out-of-control spending.
Take out the useless inadequate USPS
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:05 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Oh my gosh this is the best news we will get for a long time.
But beware when the Dems are back in power - this reform will be reversed.
But beware when the Dems are back in power - this reform will be reversed.
Posted on 2/11/26 at 3:07 pm to 50_Tiger
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It’s not rocket science. Trump got rid of one problem (illegals) for a new problem (H1B) that quite frankly is worse.
how did Trump create a new problem? H1B limits remain the same and the numbers are way smaller than illegal immigration. Nice attempt to pass the blame.
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