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re: Now we have Narcan resistant Fentanyl
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:16 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:16 pm to Jim Rockford
And the government says they have trouble finding drugs for lethal injection.
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Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:17 pm to HempHead
quote:Definitely the case for the majority but there is an increasing number of people who are actively seeking fentanyl and consider it their drug of choice.
I may be wrong, but I don't think many people are calling up their dealer asking, "bruh you got any of that fentanyl?". Distributors and/or dealers are cutting powder heroin with fentanyl, as it is much cheaper and much stronger.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:48 pm to Jim Rockford
From what I read, Acrylfentanyl binds a little more tightly to the receptor than fentanyl, but can still be displaced by narcan. If the person administering the narcan knows what they're doing, that shouldn't make much difference because you never know exactly how much narcan is needed to reverse an overdose. You keep giving more until it works and repeat as necessary if the narcan wears off, preferably with an understanding of how to manually ventilate if you just can't reverse the overdose with higher doses of narcan.
If the narcan is being administered by someone without experience in dealing with that situation and without enough drug on hand, then there's a higher risk for problems no matter what narcotic was used.
If the narcan is being administered by someone without experience in dealing with that situation and without enough drug on hand, then there's a higher risk for problems no matter what narcotic was used.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 2:56 pm to Jim Rockford
This isn’t some new thing. Lots of fentanyl analogues that are insanely strong
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:15 pm to CoachChappy
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Correct. They can use more fentanyl and call it heroin. I would imagine their measurements aren't that precise per batch. Also, there is no guarantee that 2 baggies from the same distributor are going to be cut exactly the same. Eventually, if you use enough of this crap, you will OD.
The issue is the volume/weight of fentanyl and especially carfentanil is so small compared to the amount of heroin and cutting agents you need to mix it with it requires very precise measurements and mixing equipment most dealers and small-time distributors just don't have.
I'm generally sympathetic to opioid addicts, while I am unaware of any personally I know a lot of alcoholics and the main differentiator I see outside the legality issues is many of the opioid addicts started in treatment of a legitimate medical condition.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 3:17 pm to GreatLakesTiger24
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what happened to rural america? It went from self reliant, hard working people to a bunch of welfare dependent drug addicts in a couple generations
Them farmers always been dependent on the government.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:12 pm to Centinel
quote:
The NBA and Disney will be releasing statements soon condemning this obvious slander of the great and just People's Republic of China.
The USA should try to conquer China and India while it still has any chance of success.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:14 pm to Oilfieldbiology
quote:You don't want it dude.
100 times more powerful than morphine? Where can I get this shite?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:17 pm to HempHead
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I may be wrong, but I don't think many people are calling up their dealer asking, "bruh you got any of that fentanyl?". Distributors and/or dealers are cutting powder heroin with fentanyl, as it is much cheaper and much stronger.
Bingo. Wrap that in with the fact that people are seeking cheaper alternatives to treat chronic pain than what the absolutely megafricked pharmaceutical/medical/insurance industry pushes and you've got a really bad situation. But Darwinism, amirite?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:20 pm to Commandeaux
And it’s sad. Mainly for the kids who will continue the cycle
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:32 pm to Jim Rockford
You can all be rest assured that every holier than thou motherfricker in this thread has someone they love deeply who is addicted to Opiates and they don’t know. They would be shocked to know. They would ugly cry like girls if that person was found dead and alone somewhere.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 4:33 pm to UPT
Nah these guys here are hardcore. They would feel the same way about family members
Posted on 10/15/19 at 5:21 pm to rbWarEagle
quote:I mean, you can’t completely ignore a drug addict’s role in becoming an addict.
But Darwinism, amirite?
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:09 pm to Jim Rockford
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:14 pm to genuineLSUtiger
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They would feel the same way about family members
Keyboards and such.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:16 pm to UPT
quote:Scruffy is actually certain that he doesn’t.
You can all be rest assured that every holier than thou motherfricker in this thread has someone they love deeply who is addicted to Opiates and they don’t know.
Now, problems with alcohol is a different monster.
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 6:17 pm
Posted on 10/15/19 at 6:48 pm to mule74
An absolutely tremendous number have died from Drug use already and certainly enough to prove your idea wrong.
Posted on 10/15/19 at 7:50 pm to TheHarahanian
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"Roundup for Roundeye".
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:10 pm to Jim Rockford
Big trouble in the ArkLaTex area theft of drugs from your home by the opioid addicts, who's doctor got shut down.
This was Shreveport ABC affiliate Channel 3's story.
This was Shreveport ABC affiliate Channel 3's story.
quote:
TEXARKANA, Ark. - It's been a week since federal authorities raided a Texarkana, Arkansas clinic and accused a local physician of overprescribing opioids.
Police say the arrest will take significant number of drugs off the streets, but they're now concerned about its direct impact on the community.
They're worried with a source of opioids taken off the street, addicts may now turn to friends and family's medicine cabinets.
Law enforcement is urging people to be cautious and keep their prescriptions locked up and monitored. ...
Posted on 10/15/19 at 8:11 pm to Jim Rockford
Had it for 2 plus years
This post was edited on 10/15/19 at 8:11 pm
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