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re: Norwegian police haven’t killed anyone in a decade
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:51 pm to Penrod
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:51 pm to Penrod
MSNBC Lockup did some European prisons once in a while. There was one in Serbia or Croatia with a swimming pool. There was a high security prison in Belgium for hard core felons with cells that looked like college dorm suites with private bathrooms.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:52 pm to BottomlandBrew
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Poverty rate of 0.5% vs our 12%
Overall less violent crime
Better police training
Better social safety net
More homogeneous society
Smaller population
No bullshite war on drugs
Yay socialism.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:52 pm to S1C EM
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won’t say they’re the shite, necessarily, but your point stands. When everyone is about the same, there is little to argue over and no real thought of racial oppression because there isn’t anyone to really oppress. If you look at their demographics breakdown, it’s incredibly difficult to even find a figure or percentage for black Norwegians. And I don’t know a ton about their history, but my guess is their black population doesn’t have ties to slavery or civil rights struggles, so black Norwegians likely have a much different view of their place in the country. Bottom line, you can’t look at Norway’s police and make an honest comparison to the United States. But God knows I’m not starting that conversation on FB.
I recall a black comedian commenting on the fighting in Ireland during the 1980’s.
He said something like,
“Catholics and Protestants are killing each other over there in Ireland. Shows you how creative white people can be when there are no Jews, blacks, browns, or Asians.”
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:53 pm to chateaublanc
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When you dont have a significant population of brown people, you have less crime
Well, that's pretty racist.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:56 pm to Jp1LSU
The Serbs and Croatians were killing each other in the nineties over which way they made the sign of the cross, left to right or right to left. If you got stopped at a checkpoint that's how they determined whether to let you through or shoot you. You'd better know which side was manning the roadblock and make your sign accordingly.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:56 pm to S1C EM
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According to this article just posted to FB by an older, Hispanic (and liberal) friend of mine. Only one really glaring problem with comparing the two.....care to guess?
Wait a minute...I thought y'all were claiming that more white people get shot by police than black.
If that's the case, your point is non-existent.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 3:01 pm
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:57 pm to NYNolaguy1
Take some time to look up the Norwegian Sovereign Oil Fund. I believe it’s worth like $300k per Norwegian citizen. In a few generations no one there will work at all.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:59 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Poverty rate of 0.5% vs our 12%
Overall less violent crime
Better police training
Better social safety net
More homogeneous society
Smaller population
No bullshite war on drugs
Yay socialism.
It helps to have oil. Scandinavia was poor AF before the seventies. It's why so many of them immigrated to the US in the 19th Century.
Now, a fair question to ask is why have the Norwegians used their oil wealth to create a stable, prosperous society and the middle eastern countries have done just the opposite.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:59 pm to Jim Rockford
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If their kids qualify for college, it's paid for as part of the social benefits package. I understand that health care can be kind of hit or miss in the rural areas, but it's very good in the cities. You may have to wait for non-urgent procedures but at least you don't have to worry about being bankrupted.
It's great for poor people, and it sucks for affluent people. My daughter lived two years in Sweden and had a baby there. And she's lived about five years in the UK and is about to have a baby there.
They ration care in a way that Americans (working Americans, that is) would find appalling. Recently she suspected low iron and went to the doctor. Instead of testing, like any US doctor would have, they just gave her iron supplements and sent her home. Plus she had to wait about a week and a half for an appointment. It sucks balls, but they love it cause IT's FREE. I pointed out that the reason two University employed PHds have to live in a 1200 sq ft double is because of all the FREE stuff they get.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:59 pm to CaptainPanic
quote:An olfactory walk down memory lane.
Reminds me of Phish at The Gorge
Sometimes a hasty tactical retreat is the best strategy.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:01 pm to S1C EM
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Guns are not central to police activity in Norway, which is one reason why the law enforcement shooting rates are so low. As in Britain, police in Norway typically patrol while unarmed and only bear arms in extenuating situations.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:02 pm to Penrod
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How hard?
I mean, if you’ve got a way to figure out how many kids are in each of those single parent HOUSEHOLDS, go for it. I’ve not come across a figure for single parents to compare to total population. I’m thinking you didn’t read that as well as you think you did.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:03 pm to Jp1LSU
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Take some time to look up the Norwegian Sovereign Oil Fund. I believe it’s worth like $300k per Norwegian citizen. In a few generations no one there will work at all.
That's actually really interesting. Sounds almost like a public version of the FIRE movement, where everyone has their own endowment.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:04 pm to S1C EM
Basically and all white country. And people are more respectful of the police.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:05 pm to Jim Rockford
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Now, a fair question to ask is why have the Norwegians used their oil wealth to create a stable, prosperous society and the middle eastern countries have done just the opposite.
I would imagine one being an absolute monarchy and the other a constitutional monarchy has something to do with it.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:07 pm to ItTakesAThief
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Basically and all white country.
Again: one of the rallying calls on here is how more white people are killed by cops than black people.
So this point is worthless.
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And people are more respectful of the police.
Maybe because their police have earned that respect by respecting the people?
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 3:08 pm
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:11 pm to magildachunks
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Again: one of the rallying calls on here is how more white people are killed by cops than black people.
It’s a factual statement. What’s your issue with it?
And someone has already pointed out their lack of guns. They aren’t shooting white people, either, because there aren’t a shite ton of trashy white people there who bring guns to interactions with cops.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:14 pm to Philzilla2k
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Overwhelmingly white country
Posted on 6/12/20 at 3:53 pm to S1C EM
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Norwegian police haven’t killed anyone in a decade
Culturally and racially homogenous, thus possible. Melting pots can't achieve this. We do however have many advantages over racially and culturally homogenous countries.
Give and take.
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