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NOLA Fire Union and the Mustache Fire Chief are in a bit of a kerfuffle
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:13 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:13 pm
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NOFD apparently has been calling A LOT of voluntary OT lately, due to staffing issues.
Fire union says no more, fireman will stop showing up for voluntary OT.
City says ok, we will stop calling voluntary OT, but, since vacations are part of a reason for needing OT, we are cancelling vacations. Also, it will start calling for mandatory OT, although none is currently being called.
I know some of that time firemen spend in the firehouse and sleeping at the firehouse, but to still be on call for 96-120 hours a week is insane.
Chief Mustache isn't too happy.
Obligatory "I wonder if the statues can fight fires"
NOFD apparently has been calling A LOT of voluntary OT lately, due to staffing issues.
Fire union says no more, fireman will stop showing up for voluntary OT.
City says ok, we will stop calling voluntary OT, but, since vacations are part of a reason for needing OT, we are cancelling vacations. Also, it will start calling for mandatory OT, although none is currently being called.
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The temporary directive excludes employees who have made financial vacation commitments and only requires firefighters to work their regular schedule, which averages 56 hours/week
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The union president told FOX 8 in 2010 there were about 800 members and today there are about 500. He says it’s the lowest in the agency’s 128-year history. To cope, he says firefighters are working many overtime hours.
They’re working between 96 and 120 hours a week to make up for the shortfall.
I know some of that time firemen spend in the firehouse and sleeping at the firehouse, but to still be on call for 96-120 hours a week is insane.
Chief Mustache isn't too happy.
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“To choose this time to do it at the heart of Mardi Gras coming up on Friday, then the hard rock collapse, nothing like it before,” Chief Tim McConnell said Monday. “And you won’t look around and find it anywhere else in America and to capitalize on this just speaks to lack of leadership on their part.”
Obligatory "I wonder if the statues can fight fires"
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Chief Mustache isn't too happy.
He'll put them on mandatory statue removal overtime
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:18 pm to LSUFanHouston
But it's a hard job.
Firemen eat until they get sleepy. Then they sleep till they get hungry.
Firemen eat until they get sleepy. Then they sleep till they get hungry.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:19 pm to JohnWicksDawg
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Firemen eat until they get sleepy. Then they sleep till they get hungry.
Might not be too many fires to fight, but NOLA send the fireman out for accidents, medical situations, and to hose down the funk that the homeless leave under the underpasses.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:24 pm to LSUFanHouston
Won’t end well for NOFD. My guess is that her firemen are using comp time for vacations. Federal law is pretty clear that the public employer that utilized the company time exception as opposed to paying time and a half can’t use “lack of manpower” as a reason to deny use of comp time. The whole point of the overtime law is to penalize an employer for forcing employees to work more than allowed in a week instead of hiring additional people to work to fill those hours. Comp time is an exception to granted to certain public employers to allow them to put time and half into a “bank” that the employee can draw on as a paid amount of time off instead of paying him money in wages the week he works the OT. Feds want you hire more peeps instead of denying comp time or paying time and a half. Slam dunk for the firemen.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 3:26 pm to michael corleone
Does hourly get comp time? I assume firemen are hourly.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:19 pm to fightin tigers
No Comp time. They get annual leave (vacation) and sick leave. Both are accrued each pay period and can be banked for future use, to buy time on job for retirement, or paid in cash upon end of employment.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
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fires to fight, but NOLA send the fireman out for accidents, medical situations, and to hose down the funk that the homeless leave under the underpasses.
Check hydrants, in home battery smoke detectors, false alarms and that thing called Mardi Gras.
Timing seems nice. Ole Timmy Mac.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:40 pm to LSUFanHouston
WTF, why would anyone ever complain about voluntary OT?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 4:58 pm to QuietTiger
Tim mc Connell is a bitch
Plain and simple hes a boot licker
His men hate him, he's a coward
Plain and simple hes a boot licker
His men hate him, he's a coward
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:02 pm to chryso
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WTF, why would anyone ever complain about voluntary OT
Because the union is telling them to.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:12 pm to fightin tigers
That’s not true.
Voluntary OT is 48 - 96 hours straight.
We have a contract that has yet to be signed as promised.
I don’t have the time right now to explain the working conditions, but we’re underpaid, overworked and undermanned.
So talking about us sleeping or whatever... 65,000 calls last year. This is New Orleans, not some Cracker Jack volunteer or small community fire dept.
Voluntary OT is 48 - 96 hours straight.
We have a contract that has yet to be signed as promised.
I don’t have the time right now to explain the working conditions, but we’re underpaid, overworked and undermanned.
So talking about us sleeping or whatever... 65,000 calls last year. This is New Orleans, not some Cracker Jack volunteer or small community fire dept.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:13 pm to LSUFanHouston
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then the hard rock collapse
I get everything else but let's be serious about one thing. Is it really necessary to have a full fire crew sitting outside that collapsed building every day? What the frick are they going to do if it starts to fall down? Spray water on it? Run around the block with their sirens on?
Hire some $10 an hour security guards to watch the perimeter and put those boys back to work.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:14 pm to LSUcajun77
Why is the union saying y'all will stop showing up for voluntary OT?
Have never heard of a union doing that unless they were trying to force a hand.
Have never heard of a union doing that unless they were trying to force a hand.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:14 pm to LSUFanHouston
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today there are about 500. He says it’s the lowest in the agency’s 128-year history
does a city of the size of New Orleans, really need more than 500 fire fighters?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:17 pm to jbgleason
You’re right.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:26 pm to LSUcajun77
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Sheriff office, EMS, Nopd.. all are getting paid detail money hourly
Don't worry about other people's money.
There are obvious reasons why the other's are detail.
You are coming off very bad in this thread
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:26 pm to TigerintheNO
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does a city of the size of New Orleans, really need more than 500 fire fighters?
Doing basic level research, two cites with similar populations as New Orleans:
Minneapolis: 422 firefighters
Arlington: 380 firefighters
Not sure why New Orleans needs over 500
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:28 pm to Packer
quote:Well done. I'd speculate that NOFD eat and sleep more, hence the need for an increase in headcount over those places.
Doing basic level research, two cites with similar populations as New Orleans:
Minneapolis: 422 firefighters
Arlington: 380 firefighters
Not sure why New Orleans needs over 500.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:29 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:29 pm to alpinetiger
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eat and sleep and dick around on tigerdroppings more
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