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re: NOLA Fire Union and the Mustache Fire Chief are in a bit of a kerfuffle
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:33 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:33 pm to fightin tigers
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 6:08 pm
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:33 pm to LSUcajun77
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Educate yourselves before regurgitating all over the keyboard next time.
It takes someone worthwhile teaching in order to get an education.
Oh yeah, don't think someone in the media with a axe to grind won't quote your slur somewhere down the line if this story gets traction. Such a thing has happened. And you have plenty of post history for them to figure out who you are.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:36 pm to michael corleone
They actually have vacation mandated by state law, which is a pretty easy argument to make. If this goes on long enough, people will lose their ability to use the benefit they've earned.
LINK
Of course NOFD is still using Robein, who is not at the forefront of modern litigation.
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Of course NOFD is still using Robein, who is not at the forefront of modern litigation.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:37 pm to fightin tigers
Okay. Well for the guys with all the answers : visit any firehouse and ask questions. Everything I’ve seen is incorrect so...post with accuracy that’s all.
Also let me know how your station visit goes with these attitudes and misconceptions against New Orleans firefighters
You’re right
Also let me know how your station visit goes with these attitudes and misconceptions against New Orleans firefighters
You’re right
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 5:40 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:38 pm to LSUcajun77
quote:Night, night.
Jesus there are some pussies on this board. I’m gone.
I was trying to get my first ban in 11 years here, but y’all aren’t even worth the porn bomb. Educate yourselves before regurgitating all over the keyboard next time.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:40 pm to LSUcajun77
I'm just trying to figure out why the union is stepping in and speaking for their guys on something voluntary.
Being a union person I know the only time that happens is when the union is trying to get extra compensation and they cant get their members to stop taking the voluntary OT.
The ones not taking the voluntary OT are pissed that others are taking the OT and making more money than them. So they complain to union leadership and the union leadership steps in to stop it.
Being a union person I know the only time that happens is when the union is trying to get extra compensation and they cant get their members to stop taking the voluntary OT.
The ones not taking the voluntary OT are pissed that others are taking the OT and making more money than them. So they complain to union leadership and the union leadership steps in to stop it.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 5:54 pm to fightin tigers
You can Email me, I don’t mind answering questions
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:02 pm to Packer
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Minneapolis: 422 firefighters
Arlington: 380 firefighters
Not sure why New Orleans needs over 500
Oh I don't know, maybe think about how many old arse buildings and houses are in Nola. Many of those aren't built to modern standards and the fires end up being pretty bad.
As others have pointed out, the fire department gets called out for lots of BS not related to fires because the shitty police force is understaffed and full of dumbasses. Lot's of drug overdoses, wrecks, and shootings end up being fire department call outs.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:10 pm to notiger1997
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Not sure why New Orleans needs over 500
To watch EMS provide a ride to the emergency room for all of the people that suffer from cold, flu, and everything else that ails them. EMS gets their check from Medicaid/Medicare. The hospitals, theirs. All at little or no expense to the person abusing the system.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:11 pm to notiger1997
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because the shitty police force is understaffed and full of dumbasses. Lot's of drug overdoses, wrecks, and shootings end up being fire department call outs.
Oh OK. So NOFD is investigating lots of shootings are they? What is the homicide closure rate on those? God forbid y'all respond to a medical emergency (Drug OD or vehicle accident). Let me remind you that fire departments nationwide lobbied long and hard for the EMS function when the writing on the wall clearly showed structure fire rates falling due to modern building codes. Fires are less that what 10% of your call outs now? But you complain about call volume that your organization lobbied for in order to support your demands for pay and jobs. Turn EMS over to private agencies like Acadian, eliminate NOFD ambulances and cut the FD to a third of its current size. Let's see how the union likes that.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:21 pm to jbgleason
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Oh OK. So NOFD is investigating lots of shootings are they? What is the homicide closure rate on those?
WTF are you asking?
They respond to all of those and treat people on the scene.
I'm not a damn firemen and nobody in my family is. I know a few of them and hate seeing one of the few halfway functioning entities in Nola being crapped on.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:22 pm to LSUFanHouston
Man, this thread hasn’t gone well for our resident smoke eater LSUCajun77.
Someone with a little more restraint that can communicate clear from the NOFD needs to get in here and clean up his mess.
What are you guys frustrated with exactly? The way I read it was that you turned your nose at VOLUNTARY man power and now the Administration has made it mandatory?
Voluntary sounds like it could be win/win for both sides. Others can make good extra money (firefighter love side jobs) and the Admin ensures that houses are staffed.
What am I missing?
Someone with a little more restraint that can communicate clear from the NOFD needs to get in here and clean up his mess.
What are you guys frustrated with exactly? The way I read it was that you turned your nose at VOLUNTARY man power and now the Administration has made it mandatory?
Voluntary sounds like it could be win/win for both sides. Others can make good extra money (firefighter love side jobs) and the Admin ensures that houses are staffed.
What am I missing?
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 6:24 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:23 pm to jbgleason
Buddy, you’re inaccurate. NOEMS is its own agency. NOFD is forced to respond to EVERY medical call. Because NOEMS only has 6 units at a time.
There are a million people at any given time in New Orleans.
You’re off on your numbers, you’re misinformed and you’re opinion is ridiculous. I understand you’re not suppose to know the truth about how a large city fire department is suppose to be run. There are plenty NFPA guidelines that need to be met. That’s where you can start..population, manpower, response times, call volume etc. there’s so much more to what you want to belittle and I get your opinion, but take a breath and educate yourself.
Sorry my frustration turned to anger.
There are a million people at any given time in New Orleans.
You’re off on your numbers, you’re misinformed and you’re opinion is ridiculous. I understand you’re not suppose to know the truth about how a large city fire department is suppose to be run. There are plenty NFPA guidelines that need to be met. That’s where you can start..population, manpower, response times, call volume etc. there’s so much more to what you want to belittle and I get your opinion, but take a breath and educate yourself.
Sorry my frustration turned to anger.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:24 pm to notiger1997
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hate seeing one of the few halfway functioning entities in Nola being crapped on.
Glad someone understands and takes the time to speak directly to someone.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:26 pm to The People
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What am I missing?
A lot.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:29 pm to LSUFanHouston
NOLA Dems really know how to treat a Union.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:29 pm to LSUFanHouston
Voluntary OT, and I assume they are getting time and a half or better to bulk up their pensions?
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:31 pm to LSUcajun77
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A lot.
Ok. We are all listening. Make your case.
Take your time. Don’t let your emotion get you.
Impress me.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:41 pm to LSUcajun77
quote:
There are a million people at any given time in New Orleans.
No there isn't. Even in the metro area that is a stretch because we have to take in the northshore to meet that number.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 6:47 pm to kywildcatfanone
Overtime does not go towards pension numbers. All of the overtime worked the past couple years has just put a band aid on a department that is hemorrhaging employees. This band aid just hides the awful job the mustache has done. Years ago you could count on one hand the number of people who voluntarily resigned from the NOFD before they were vested. During McConnell's tenure the department lost as almost as many members through resignation as through retirement.
Peel the band aid away and show just how bad the wound is. They started not VOLUNTEERING to not work extra shifts on a Monday and manpower was so depleted he already cancelled vacations.
Peel the band aid away and show just how bad the wound is. They started not VOLUNTEERING to not work extra shifts on a Monday and manpower was so depleted he already cancelled vacations.
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