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re: NOLA Fire Union and the Mustache Fire Chief are in a bit of a kerfuffle
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:38 pm to fightin tigers
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:38 pm to fightin tigers
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Sounds like is a mirror of private sector jobs.
Most have forgone pensions
Pensions for public employees need to end tomorrow. New employees need to be put into a traditional retirement like private sector, with some employer match.
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Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:42 pm to Hunter6868
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Your dads cousin is hated by everyone, he’s an enslaved cuck to the landrieu’s and now LaToya. His plumbing business is trash too
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:43 pm to LSUcajun77
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I can ask for more money when the study made by an outside company says we’re 43% below the average.
If a private sector employee can go and ask for raises, no reason a fire department can’t do the same.
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When you’re making 59,000 more calls than your neighboring fire departments
Irrelevant due to y’all have more firemen and manned stations to respond. Your average fireman can make the same amount of calls if not more from a much smaller department than y’all do.
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When guys who take promotional test are scoring in the top 3, but passed over by guys in the 120’s, you can question.
Huge red flag with hiring issues like that. Not all fire departments practice that, I don’t get it. Just an awful way of hiring
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When you’re trying to provide the best help possible with 3 guys, and the citizen deserves 4, pays for 4, you can ask.
When you’re forced to clean up bum feces, board up blighted homes, pick up trash in lots, pass out lightbulbs in Neighborhoods, you can ask.
This is typical among all paid fire departments nowadays
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:46 pm to windshieldman
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This is typical among all paid fire departments nowadays
Pretty much every job asks you to do things that you feel are beneath you.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:49 pm to kywildcatfanone
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Pensions for public employees need to end tomorrow
Understand this is the same NOFD that pissed away their pensions investing in golf courses then needed the bail out.
Their leadership isn't going to give up that cash slush fund to allow their members more control over their retirement.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 7:54 pm to fightin tigers
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Understand this is the same NOFD that pissed away their pensions investing in golf courses then needed the bail out.
IIRC that was a state issue with the retirement system. NOFD may have done that also in a separate issue, but I know the Louisiana firefighter fund back in the 90s lost a lot of money on golf courses and real estate.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:00 pm to windshieldman
The NOFD has their own pension board that is a hotbed for questionable shite including bad investments and paying disability claims for people who are not disabled.
I'm sure it is someone elses fault though.
I don't blame the firefighters themselves, but the union is clearly not working for them. They need to clean house.
I am pro-union, but it pisses me off to no end when I see unions stop working for the members and start acting like a two-bit mafia.
I'm sure it is someone elses fault though.
I don't blame the firefighters themselves, but the union is clearly not working for them. They need to clean house.
I am pro-union, but it pisses me off to no end when I see unions stop working for the members and start acting like a two-bit mafia.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:00 pm to fightin tigers
There were bad investments and those responsible for making those decisions, McConnell being one of them, have been replaced on the pension board.
However, make no mistake, there was no bailout. The money the city had to come up with were the contributions that previous mayoral administrations were required to make to the fund but had failed to do so.
However, make no mistake, there was no bailout. The money the city had to come up with were the contributions that previous mayoral administrations were required to make to the fund but had failed to do so.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:07 pm to fightin tigers
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The NOFD has their own pension board that is a hotbed for questionable shite including bad investments and paying disability claims for people who are not disabled.
I don’t disagree. But look at who you’re discussing this with. Someone who voted to overhaul the pension board to make better investments, contributes more and for a longer period of time. Also, I’m not disabled, nor am I, trying to take money for a false claim. The guys asking for fairness are not in the group you’re talking about.
I think what you need to understand is we have a contract, we provide for the citizens.. when you’re asked to do duties subject for another department, but you’re leaving areas undermanned to complete, who’s the one getting screwed? Maybe the lady who died in a fire on thanksgiving because the nearest fire crew was downtown babysitting the collapse.
We’re doing this for the safety of the citizens as well, remember that.
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:08 pm to LSUcajun77
No doubt.
I am just not convinced your enemy is the city, or NOFD leadership, as much as your own leadership.
I am just not convinced your enemy is the city, or NOFD leadership, as much as your own leadership.
This post was edited on 2/11/20 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:12 pm to fightin tigers
Might be a mixer of both 
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:37 pm to LSUFanHouston
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They’re working between 96 and 120 hours a week to make up for the shortfall.
Sounds like they should pay more in order to expand their workforce and/or reduce the amount of service that they provide. It's not magic. You hire people and provide services. If you don't want to pay for the service then you don't get it. Otherwise you're just going to burn everyone out (pun intended.)
Posted on 2/11/20 at 8:40 pm to hob
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Chief Tim McConnell said Monday.... this just speaks to lack of leadership
And from the rank and file I know, the dissatisfaction starts on his watch.
Lack of leadership starts at the top, and he is the Superintendent, the top of the Fire Department.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:39 pm to jbgleason
Hearing firemen complain about being underpaid is annoying.. these guys work, what, 2 or 3 days a week? Plus, I’d say 75% or more of those 3 days is spent lying on the couch. Ample time to get a second job to make ends meet
Plus, let’s be honest, being a fireman isn’t exactly skilled labor.. do you even need a high school diploma to get on?
Plus, let’s be honest, being a fireman isn’t exactly skilled labor.. do you even need a high school diploma to get on?
Posted on 2/12/20 at 10:58 pm to notiger1997
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As others have pointed out, the fire department gets called out for lots of BS not related to fires because the shitty police force is understaffed and full of dumbasses. Lot's of drug overdoses, wrecks, and shootings end up being fire department call outs.
Witnessed a junkie get hit by a car and NOPD waited for Fire/EMS to get there to handle it in the Marigny. NOPD didn’t even want to touch it.
Posted on 2/12/20 at 11:07 pm to LSUFanHouston
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This post was edited on 2/10/21 at 8:32 am
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:34 am to Lakeboy7
Mayor Ghana seems to be relishing crapping all over the firemen...
LINK
She's a strange bird.
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“We’ll be great through Mardi Gras, we will not have to pay any overtime to our firefighters,” Mayor Cantrell said. “And it actually saves the city money while we are keeping progress and the work going. So, it seems to be a win-win...we are in a good place."
She's a strange bird.
Posted on 2/13/20 at 8:57 am to MorgusTheMagnificent
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Hearing firemen complain about being underpaid is annoying.. these guys work, what, 2 or 3 days a week? Plus, I’d say 75% or more of those 3 days is spent lying on the couch. Ample time to get a second job to make ends meet
Idk how it is in NOLA but my dad was a firefighter and worked 24 hours on, 48 off. Sure they may be sleeping at night but they're still required to be there 48-72 hours a week and they have to respond if a call comes in at 2AM, some nights they may not get sleep at all.
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Plus, let’s be honest, being a fireman isn’t exactly skilled labor.. do you even need a high school diploma to get on?
Stop being a dumb arse and do some research.
This post was edited on 2/13/20 at 8:59 am
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