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re: Nola Article..New Orleans losing its soul
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:59 am to lsupride87
Posted on 8/28/19 at 9:59 am to lsupride87
quote:westbankers......
The Chalmations are the only ones left
metairie yats
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:00 am to choupiquesushi
Ain’t dare no mo
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:00 am to choupiquesushi
quote:True
westbankers......
metairie yats
But Metairie,WB, Chalmette isnt Nola. The first poster pointed that out. They have moved out of Nola into the suburbs. Hence Nola has lost that part of its soul....
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 10:01 am
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:01 am to dallaslsufan
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The city has become less populous, less black, more white, richer at its historic center and poorer in many surrounding neighborhoods."
That’s considered acceptable criticism, but if someone had said:
“The city has become less populous, less white, more black, poorer at its historic center and richer in many surrounding neighborhoods”
they’d be roasted and run out of town
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:01 am to Anaximander
quote:and we have a winner it also stated to fall rapidly with the rapid decline of public education
Before the first Landrieu took office 50 years ago, New Orleans was larger than cities like Atlanta, Miami, Nashville and Charlotte. New Orleans was the economic capital of the South. Now we are not one of the 50 largest cities in the country. New Orleans is not even in the top half of the STATE in median household income.
Someone earlier said Katrina hurt New Orleans and that is a canard. Katrina simply exposed the problems as much as it hurt us. We had a CHANCE after Katrina but decided to rebuild for the moochers instead of the producers.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:06 am to Bard
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:17 am to choupiquesushi
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and we have a winner it also stated to fall rapidly with the rapid decline of public education
That decline started with the WAY they desegregated schools. It could not be in stages nor were they interested in improving the black schools first. It had to be instant and that caused the mass exodus of white from the system.
Desegregation was NOT a bad goal. The way they went about it doomed the system.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:21 am to USMEagles
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Gentrification can be good, but not when it's done by a bunch of whiny do-gooder hipsters from the Northeast.
Don’t tell that to New Orleans, who was absolutely desperate for young outsiders to move there.
Culture is great, but that city would have died without non-native millennials.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:38 am to dallaslsufan
Not to mention the murder rate is the lowest it's been since 1971. Oh the horror of gentrification
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:38 am to Brazos
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Yeah I’m sick of excuses being made for some people that refuse to do a damn thing to improve their lives.
Couldn't agree more with this.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:39 am to p&g
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Bums, TPOS and the smell Is the culprit for the losing of the soul.
That’s all been part of NOLA for as long as I can remember. The smell of vomit, urine and the Mississippi have been the trademark of Bourbon street since the 80s at least.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:41 am to lsupride87
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You think those are the blue collar types?
No man. I wasn't trying to imply that those areas are blue collar.
I was specifically responding to this silly part of his post
"Meanwhile the white population of Orleans Parish consists largely of people from Pennsylvania who supplement their trust funds by selling kitschy garbage sculpture"
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:42 am to notiger1997
What I got from reading that drivel is someone whining because his buds are losing their political power and graft opportunities...
Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:45 am to notiger1997
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 10:55 am to Epic Cajun
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New Orleans was majority white in 1970. Has all of it's soul and culture come from the last 50 years?
Bears repeating.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:02 am to dallaslsufan
A byproduct of internet/social media more than anything else, imo. Nothing is localized anymore and the few cities that had it's own personality/culture will suffer from being constantly exposed to the national idea of pop culture (fashion, music, food, etc...) instead of keeping up with the individual ideas of a city that made it unique.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:06 am to dallaslsufan
Gentrification and population movement are not always bad things, but the culture is pretty much a gone pecan.
When Yankee transplants and hipster douches need to go on and on about how "authentic" the city is, you pretty much know it's not.
Something genuinely authentic doesn't need to constantly reaffirm that it is. It just is.Kind of like Tywin Lannister said:
"Any man who has to say 'I am the king' is no true king."
What exists now is a caricature of NO culture, combined with generic Lefty, hipster culture that exists in many other cities. Nothing original or unique except for the surface sheen. Rather dull in substance.
BTW, New Orleans was majority white for the majority of its existence. New Orleans black culture is vital to its history and true culture, but it wasn't viewed as a "black city" until relatively recently.
It's still a fun city but has been in steady decline since about 1850. Slow decline until 1960 or so. Quick decline since.
Had an opportunity to reinvest and reinvent itself as a successful city on the federal government's dollar after Katrina and completely blew it.
New Orleans' raison d'etre is commerce and capitalism. Once residents decided it was more about music and food (and hence tourism/hospitality), the death knell sounded.
When Yankee transplants and hipster douches need to go on and on about how "authentic" the city is, you pretty much know it's not.
Something genuinely authentic doesn't need to constantly reaffirm that it is. It just is.Kind of like Tywin Lannister said:
"Any man who has to say 'I am the king' is no true king."
What exists now is a caricature of NO culture, combined with generic Lefty, hipster culture that exists in many other cities. Nothing original or unique except for the surface sheen. Rather dull in substance.
BTW, New Orleans was majority white for the majority of its existence. New Orleans black culture is vital to its history and true culture, but it wasn't viewed as a "black city" until relatively recently.
It's still a fun city but has been in steady decline since about 1850. Slow decline until 1960 or so. Quick decline since.
Had an opportunity to reinvest and reinvent itself as a successful city on the federal government's dollar after Katrina and completely blew it.
New Orleans' raison d'etre is commerce and capitalism. Once residents decided it was more about music and food (and hence tourism/hospitality), the death knell sounded.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:14 am to cahoots
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A lot of neighborhoods were moving in a positive direction long before airbnb got popular. Acting like the only options are airbnb guests or drug dealers is incorrect.
Acting like going into an Air BnB direction is the end of the world is even more incorrect. Also, you seem to be ignoring that the Air BnB phenomenon is now a part of gentrification in certain places and times.
This goes back to my point of people wanting things to get better then complaining because they aren't getting better in the exact manner they want them to.
If every other house in my neighborhood going Air BnB means the neighborhood becomes safer and cleaner, then I am all for it.
I'm watching a thread on Nextdoor right now where some asshats near Old Hammond are still living in their FEMA trailer on their property and not only not working on their house but are not even mowing their yard. I would trade that sort of neighbor for someone to buy the home, fix it up and turn it into an Air BnB every single day.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:22 am to Bard
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Acting like going into an Air BnB direction is the end of the world is even more incorrect. Also, you seem to be ignoring that the Air BnB phenomenon is now a part of gentrification in certain places and times.
This goes back to my point of people wanting things to get better then complaining because they aren't getting better in the exact manner they want them to.
If every other house in my neighborhood going Air BnB means the neighborhood becomes safer and cleaner, then I am all for it.
I'm watching a thread on Nextdoor right now where some asshats near Old Hammond are still living in their FEMA trailer on their property and not only not working on their house but are not even mowing their yard. I would trade that sort of neighbor for someone to buy the home, fix it up and turn it into an Air BnB every single day.
I can say with pretty good certainty, I would have a lot more confidence simply allowing the free market to sort all this out, than I would be in having ANYONE in New Orleans City Government having a hand in it instead.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 11:25 am to tigahbruh
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but the culture is pretty much a gone pecan
Meh. What part of the New Orleans culture do you find really missing these days?
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