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Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:22 pm to tigerinthebueche
Again with this crap. Go back and look at the murder stats for Baton Rouge in the early 90’s. National leader per capita
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:23 pm to jmcwhrter
quote:That’s akin a the following scenario:
Would it be correct to say that Houston killed New Orleans?
another port that allowed companies to avoid Louisiana and its ineptitude entirely?
A husband is a wife-beater,
the wife divorces him,
the wife then meets and marries a man who doesn’t beat her
the original husband blames the second husband for breaking up his marriage.
People & organizations (including businesses) move away from pain.
Trying to function in and amidst NOLA is painful to a business that has experience in the normal parts of the US.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:28 pm to biglego
quote:
Growing up, I really don’t remember residents being so self-aware of their kitschy culture. I don’t recall the caricature. I think that mostly came after Katrina with the outpouring of fluer de lis everywhere and Who Dat etc.
Was coming to make this point. I love Mardi Gras, but I don’t want or need year-round Mardi Gras. That’s essentially where we’re headed with the amount of “holiday parades” and new festivals popping up every weekend.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:33 pm to notiger1997
quote:
Again with this crap. Go back and look at the murder stats for Baton Rouge in the early 90’s. National leader per capita
aw, sorry you're so triggered. But I actually said nothing about crime. I was talking about the influx of people BR was ill prepared to accommodate.
thanks for being a racist and jumping to conclusions though. Gravy says "hello"
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:35 pm to tigahbruh
California and New England transplants have sucked the life out of the city. Gotta go, on my way to today’s manufactured festival.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:38 pm to dallaslsufan
Anyone read the comments to that article?
“This article is a great argument against immigration, though that wasn't the author's intention. Consider the following: "Outsiders (who used to only visit) are putting down roots, tilting the delicate balance between those residents who move to the city because they love it and those who naturally embody the city’s culture because they live it." So if we replace "the city" in this sentence with "the USA" we have one of Trump's arguments. Or is it only bad when white people displace black people, not the reverse? Isn't that racist?”
“This article is a great argument against immigration, though that wasn't the author's intention. Consider the following: "Outsiders (who used to only visit) are putting down roots, tilting the delicate balance between those residents who move to the city because they love it and those who naturally embody the city’s culture because they live it." So if we replace "the city" in this sentence with "the USA" we have one of Trump's arguments. Or is it only bad when white people displace black people, not the reverse? Isn't that racist?”
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:42 pm to dallaslsufan
Good.
I welcome any change.
I welcome any change.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:43 pm to biglego
quote:
Growing up, I really don’t remember residents being so self-aware of their kitschy culture.
Just look at Mardi Gras. Before Katrina, the parades in the city were bleeding members, and the suburban parades were mostly growing.
Now, everyone wants to ride in the city.
quote:
I don’t recall the caricature. I think that mostly came after Katrina with the outpouring of fluer de lis everywhere and Who Dat etc.
When you experience a traumatic event, you grab on to the things closest to you, even if you never did before. People clung to stuff like this (no doubt aided by the O-T's favorite small business owner, Ms. Fleurty Girl).
Losing as much as we did, followed by a sense of civic pride resulting from the rebuilding, has caused an explosion of "NOLA", fleur de lis, etc.
Excellent observation, biglego
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:45 pm to tigerinthebueche
quote:
thanks for being a racist and jumping to conclusions though. Gravy says "hello"
I wouldn't piss on Gravy if he was on fire. I would rather just pour some grease on him.
Sorry, but it gets reported once a week in various threads that Katrina ruined Baton Rouge. Guess I read your comment wrong.
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:46 pm to dallaslsufan
It already lost it's soul and it has nothing to do with white or black...it has everything to do with the influx of hipsters that now inhabit the city after deciding it was a edgy place to live. I barley recognize some of my most loved parts of my hometown and I fricking hate hipsters for it
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:47 pm to dallaslsufan
Were the removed statues brought up?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 12:52 pm to tigahbruh
quote:
Nolier than thou transplant Yankees
Well done. I'm going to have to remember this one.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:02 pm to scott8811
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:13 pm to cahoots
quote:
Have you been to Austin or Dallas or Atlanta or Nashville?
I have, but I'm not sure what those cities original culture looked like so I really have no gauge. I grew up in New Orleans and I miss the hell out of it...thing is I can't even visit. Hipsters and various other people fell in love with a caricature of the city, moved in and painted that caricature everywhere.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:14 pm to dallaslsufan
I love these articles that suggest that New Orleans is losing it's culture because white people are moving in. Because white people don't have culture or appreciate other cultures, I guess.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:19 pm to scott8811
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I have, but I'm not sure what those cities original culture looked like so I really have no gauge. I grew up in New Orleans and I miss the hell out of it...thing is I can't even visit. Hipsters and various other people fell in love with a caricature of the city, moved in and painted that caricature everywhere.
Most of that shite is only a problem if you bother to pay attention to it and let it be so. It's easy enough to ignore most of it if you wish, I find, and just live life however you want to live it.
There's plenty of issues in New Orleans that can make it a tiresome place at times. The phenomenon you describe is pretty far down the list of those.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:20 pm to dallaslsufan
From the article's comments section:
This article is a great argument against immigration, though that wasn't the author's intention. Consider the following: "Outsiders (who used to only visit) are putting down roots, tilting the delicate balance between those residents who move to the city because they love it and those who naturally embody the city’s culture because they live it." So if we replace "the city" in this sentence with "the USA" we have one of Trump's arguments. Or is it only bad when white people displace black people, not the reverse? Isn't that racist?
This article is a great argument against immigration, though that wasn't the author's intention. Consider the following: "Outsiders (who used to only visit) are putting down roots, tilting the delicate balance between those residents who move to the city because they love it and those who naturally embody the city’s culture because they live it." So if we replace "the city" in this sentence with "the USA" we have one of Trump's arguments. Or is it only bad when white people displace black people, not the reverse? Isn't that racist?
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:24 pm to Y.A. Tittle
quote:
There's plenty of issues in New Orleans that can make it a tiresome place at times. The phenomenon you describe is pretty far down the list of those.
I guess it's to my forefront because I no longer live there. Maybe I am nitpicking, and I can recognize that...but I know I'm not the only one who can feel a difference in the city. Parts are really hard to ignore....Frenchmen street used to be for our music and music only....know it's got a sprawling art gallery full of weird morbid "art" and people who make kitchy shite out of beads because it's SO NOLA!! That and the street is packed with people attending that type of shite...or putting on a random fricking fire baton show in the middle of the street. It's just shite like that that makes it different and hard to enjoy the way we used to be able to.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 1:52 pm to LSUFanHouston
I upvoted your post because in general it was good, but you're a little off on this part:
While Katrina may have accelerated the process, this change was really happening well before Katrina.
In Orleans, you had the 3 old-line Krewes (Momus, Proteus, Comus) go away in the early 1990s after the Dorothy Mae Taylor fiasco. But then you had the rise of the other big newer Krewes (and return of Proteus) well before Katrina:
Orpheus: 1994
Krewe D'Etat: 1998
Ancient Druids: 1999
Chaos: 2000
Return of Proteus: 2000
Muses: 2001
The only BIG new one in New Orleans since Katrina is Nyx (2012).
In Jefferson Parish, the decline also started well before Katrina, they weren't "mostly growing", the decline started as early as 1999 (the last year of a full, "every day" schedule).
These are the Metairie Krewes that left and their dates (thanks, Arthur Hardy):
Helios (1958-1977)
Mardi Gras (1975-1994)
Neptune (1996-1997)
Diana (1969-1999)
Sinbad (1990-1999)
Saturn (1984-2005)(actually moved to New Orleans in the 1990s)
Mercury (1986-2005)
Jason (1964-1976, 2002-2007)
Aquila (1977-2008)
Rhea (1971-2011)
Atlas (1970-2013)
Thor (1974-2013)
Zeus (1958-2014)
Napoleon (1981-2018)
Caesar (1979-2019)
quote:
Just look at Mardi Gras. Before Katrina, the parades in the city were bleeding members, and the suburban parades were mostly growing.
Now, everyone wants to ride in the city.
While Katrina may have accelerated the process, this change was really happening well before Katrina.
In Orleans, you had the 3 old-line Krewes (Momus, Proteus, Comus) go away in the early 1990s after the Dorothy Mae Taylor fiasco. But then you had the rise of the other big newer Krewes (and return of Proteus) well before Katrina:
Orpheus: 1994
Krewe D'Etat: 1998
Ancient Druids: 1999
Chaos: 2000
Return of Proteus: 2000
Muses: 2001
The only BIG new one in New Orleans since Katrina is Nyx (2012).
In Jefferson Parish, the decline also started well before Katrina, they weren't "mostly growing", the decline started as early as 1999 (the last year of a full, "every day" schedule).
These are the Metairie Krewes that left and their dates (thanks, Arthur Hardy):
Helios (1958-1977)
Mardi Gras (1975-1994)
Neptune (1996-1997)
Diana (1969-1999)
Sinbad (1990-1999)
Saturn (1984-2005)(actually moved to New Orleans in the 1990s)
Mercury (1986-2005)
Jason (1964-1976, 2002-2007)
Aquila (1977-2008)
Rhea (1971-2011)
Atlas (1970-2013)
Thor (1974-2013)
Zeus (1958-2014)
Napoleon (1981-2018)
Caesar (1979-2019)
This post was edited on 9/10/19 at 9:52 am
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