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re: New Orleans native & businessman Thomas Hand Jr. murdered in Montgomery, Alabama
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:55 am to dallastigers
Posted on 1/27/22 at 9:55 am to dallastigers
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17 year old had zero value for another’s life
And sucks even more that his pos friends are going to see him as somewhat of a celebrity with street credit now for actually shooting and killing someone. They are going to celebrate him for really being a "gangsta" now and want to be like him.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 1:59 pm to RebelRye
Looks like thugs gonna thug. New article came out after the hearing and said hand was not armed. Apparently Tommy went to the boys house spoke with his mother and said he would go to the grandmothers house next. Kid confronts him in the street and tells him not to go to his grandmothers house to which Tommy smiled and replied you don't know me to kid. The kid responds with "no you don't know me", pulls weapon and fires a single shot to the chest.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:15 pm to LSU5508
So sad.
Does anyone know which New Orleans suburb he lived in or what church he went to in LA?
Does anyone know which New Orleans suburb he lived in or what church he went to in LA?
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:37 pm to jsquardjj
Wasn't in New Orleans was Montgomery Alabama. He was not killed in his neighborhood he was killed in what I would assume was some suspect neighborhood.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:39 pm to LSU5508
quote:
Kid confronts him in the street and tells him not to go to his grandmothers house to which Tommy smiled and replied you don't know me to kid. The kid responds with "no you don't know me", pulls weapon and fires a single shot to the chest.
Wow.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:46 pm to LSU5508
But don’t black people always get systematically or systemically slaughtered in white neighborhoods? That’s what Democrats tell me at least and they’d never lie.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 2:47 pm to MrLSU
I am a believer that some people are just not worth trying to save. They are simply rotten as Hell, and will stay that way until they no longer exist here and reside there.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:06 pm to MrLSU
Take the thug down to Atmore. I'd like them to fire up old Sparky for nostalgic reasons.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 5:29 pm to MrLSU
Its sad that all over the country we have kids with no guidance, never taken a gun safety course (as if it would matter for the kids in the street).
Teenagers are stupid, especially ones that probably isn't all that educated.. They get into an argument and their reaction is to pull their gun and shoot someone.. And don't even think twice about it.
Teenagers are stupid, especially ones that probably isn't all that educated.. They get into an argument and their reaction is to pull their gun and shoot someone.. And don't even think twice about it.
Posted on 2/21/22 at 8:20 pm to LSU5508
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LSU5508
. New article came out after the hearing . ….
Link?
Posted on 2/23/22 at 7:54 am to Contender54
Found it.
Grand jury may get case of Montgomery teen charged with capital murder
Marty Roney
Montgomery Advertiser
A Montgomery County District Judge will decide if a grand jury will review the case against a teenager charged with capital murder in the shooting death of a man who was in the neighborhood “preaching the Old Testament.”
Judge Monet Gaines held a probable cause hearing against Jerimiah Walker, 17. Capital charges are being sought because the shooting occurred in the presence of a child under the age of 14, court records show. Gaines said she will enter an order in the future in the case.
Walker admitted in an interview with law enforcement to shooting Thomas Hand Jr., 37, on the afternoon of Jan. 22, in the 3100 block of Texas Street, a Montgomery Police Department detective testified.
Hand, his wife, and their two-year-old son were in the neighborhood “preaching the Old Testament,” the detective said. The couple made a habit of going door to door on Saturday afternoons preaching the testament. The Hands live in Wetumpka, Mrs. Hand’s Facebook page says.
Hand was knocking on doors on one side of the street and Mrs. Hand and the child, who was in a stroller, was on the other side of the street.
Hand knocked on the door of Walker’s residence and spoke with Walker’s mother, the detective said. Hand left the residence and walked down the street toward Walker’s grandmother’s home, Walker said in his statement to the detective. Walker left his home to speak with Hand.
The two were in the street when Walker told Hand not to go to his grandmother’s home, the detective said. The men talked in the street and the detective said Hand smiled at Walker.
“You don’t know me,” Hand told Walker, the detective said. Then Walker answered, “You don’t know me either.”
That’s when Hand reached down to his pocket and Walker told the detective her drew a handgun and shot Hand, Walker said in his interview.
Mrs. Hand was on a porch talking with another person when she heard the gunshot, but did not see her husband shot. She took the stroller around the side of the home and waited for her husband. When her husband did not come, she pushed the stroller into the street where she saw her husband laying in the street, the detective said.
Hand was pronounced dead on the scene from a single gunshot wound to the chest, the detective testified. Walker later turned himself into the patrol division and voluntarily made a statement, waiving his juvenile Miranda rights, the detective said.
Hand was not armed at the time, the detective said.
The detective was the only witness called by the state. On cross examination Willie Huntley Jr. Walker’s attorney questioned the detective on in Hand was using profanity and had raised his voice during the discussion with Walker before the shooting. The detective said no one, including Walker mentioned Hand was using profanity or had raised his voice at the time.
Walker was standing next to Huntley before the bench, dressed in blaze orange jail garb and restrained in handcuffs and belly chains. Walker did not speak during the hearing
The detective had testified earlier that Mrs. Hand and the child were about 50 feet away at the time of the shooting. Huntley seized on that fact because state law requires that the child under 14 must witness or hear the act to support the capital murder charge.
Assistant District Attorney Scott Green argued on redirect that the law reads the child “may” witness the act.
Huntley requested Gaines set a bond in the case, but she did not act on bond during the hearing. Walker is now being held on no bond, standard in a capital case.
Contact Montgomery Advertiser reporter Marty Roney at mroney@gannett.com.
Grand jury may get case of Montgomery teen charged with capital murder
Marty Roney
Montgomery Advertiser
A Montgomery County District Judge will decide if a grand jury will review the case against a teenager charged with capital murder in the shooting death of a man who was in the neighborhood “preaching the Old Testament.”
Judge Monet Gaines held a probable cause hearing against Jerimiah Walker, 17. Capital charges are being sought because the shooting occurred in the presence of a child under the age of 14, court records show. Gaines said she will enter an order in the future in the case.
Walker admitted in an interview with law enforcement to shooting Thomas Hand Jr., 37, on the afternoon of Jan. 22, in the 3100 block of Texas Street, a Montgomery Police Department detective testified.
Hand, his wife, and their two-year-old son were in the neighborhood “preaching the Old Testament,” the detective said. The couple made a habit of going door to door on Saturday afternoons preaching the testament. The Hands live in Wetumpka, Mrs. Hand’s Facebook page says.
Hand was knocking on doors on one side of the street and Mrs. Hand and the child, who was in a stroller, was on the other side of the street.
Hand knocked on the door of Walker’s residence and spoke with Walker’s mother, the detective said. Hand left the residence and walked down the street toward Walker’s grandmother’s home, Walker said in his statement to the detective. Walker left his home to speak with Hand.
The two were in the street when Walker told Hand not to go to his grandmother’s home, the detective said. The men talked in the street and the detective said Hand smiled at Walker.
“You don’t know me,” Hand told Walker, the detective said. Then Walker answered, “You don’t know me either.”
That’s when Hand reached down to his pocket and Walker told the detective her drew a handgun and shot Hand, Walker said in his interview.
Mrs. Hand was on a porch talking with another person when she heard the gunshot, but did not see her husband shot. She took the stroller around the side of the home and waited for her husband. When her husband did not come, she pushed the stroller into the street where she saw her husband laying in the street, the detective said.
Hand was pronounced dead on the scene from a single gunshot wound to the chest, the detective testified. Walker later turned himself into the patrol division and voluntarily made a statement, waiving his juvenile Miranda rights, the detective said.
Hand was not armed at the time, the detective said.
The detective was the only witness called by the state. On cross examination Willie Huntley Jr. Walker’s attorney questioned the detective on in Hand was using profanity and had raised his voice during the discussion with Walker before the shooting. The detective said no one, including Walker mentioned Hand was using profanity or had raised his voice at the time.
Walker was standing next to Huntley before the bench, dressed in blaze orange jail garb and restrained in handcuffs and belly chains. Walker did not speak during the hearing
The detective had testified earlier that Mrs. Hand and the child were about 50 feet away at the time of the shooting. Huntley seized on that fact because state law requires that the child under 14 must witness or hear the act to support the capital murder charge.
Assistant District Attorney Scott Green argued on redirect that the law reads the child “may” witness the act.
Huntley requested Gaines set a bond in the case, but she did not act on bond during the hearing. Walker is now being held on no bond, standard in a capital case.
Contact Montgomery Advertiser reporter Marty Roney at mroney@gannett.com.
Posted on 7/12/23 at 6:59 am to Contender54
Bump because the thread on the 8 y/o carjacker made me think of this case. .
Anyone have an update on this?
Anyone have an update on this?
Posted on 7/12/23 at 7:23 am to real turf fan
quote:
The Hand family moved to the city last year to escape growing violence in the New Orleans, Louisiana suburb where they previously lived
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:33 am to jrodLSUke
This young man was just protecting himself and his neighborhood from the spread of White Supremacy. It is the greatest threat in America today. Our hero, Joe Biden, says this at least once a week. Please ignore statistics. Those are just tools of racism. Please support this young man during this tough time. Hopefully a Democrat judge lets him go.
Sincerely,
Progressive Voters
Sincerely,
Progressive Voters
Posted on 7/12/23 at 8:56 am to biglego
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But don’t black people always get systematically or systemically slaughtered in white neighborhoods?
That’s nonsense…..
Everybody knows they would never be in a white neighborhood because they would have been profiled and murdered by police long before making it into the gentrified white supremacy strongholds…
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