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re: New Orleans is flooding
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:26 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:26 pm to OvertheDwayneBowe
Major Turbine when down this morning the SWB just reported
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Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:40 pm to tgrbaitn08
I wonder how often Korban thinks about packing his bags and high-tailing it back to Milwaukee.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:43 pm to tgrbaitn08
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Major Turbine when down this morning the SWB just reported
Truly remarkable
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:49 pm to tgrbaitn08
quote:Impossible. People in here said there is zero the city could have done, everywhere would flood with today’s rain
Major Turbine when down this morning the SWB just reported
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:51 pm to rocket31
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the dont man the pumps 24/7 when no big rains are predicted, is that by design or laziness?
It's cost. You would need 3 shifts per day, 24/7/365. The VAST majority of the time, the employee would be doing nothing. I'm not sure what else the employees could be doing for the system if they aren't at the stations. They are basically laborers. Maybe you could have them go out and work on clearing drains when there is no chance at all of rain.
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there have been too many of these flash floods recently to continue on with a system that doesn't turn on automatically
Some of these pumps are 100 years old or more. There is no automating them, you would have to replace the entire system and build-in automation... that's very possible but who will pay for that?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:54 pm to lsupride87
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People in here said there is zero the city could have done, everywhere would flood with today’s rain
You didnt see me say that..
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:54 pm to BottomlandBrew
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To keep subsidence to a minimum, you need to keep the canals pretty full as much as possible.
Yes, but that also means the system is starting with less capacity, then otherwise, when these events happen.
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In order to do this, you need to be able to draw the canals down in advance of rain
Sure, and they do... when they know a big possibility of rain is coming. We all went to bed last night knowing some rain would come with passage of a cold front... not 3 plus inches in an hour rain.
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Right now the entire system is responsive. It needs to be proactive.
So you mean like resiliency projects like water storage? A) those cost money and B) a lot of people don't want to give up the land for it.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:56 pm to chillygentilly
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I wonder how often Korban thinks about packing his bags and high-tailing it back to Milwaukee.
Every day, I'm sure.
And we would all be worse off if he did that.
He is compensated VERY well, but everything in the system, the employees, the government, the machines, etc is working against him.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 1:58 pm to lsupride87
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People in here said there is zero the city could have done, everywhere would flood with today’s rain
Show me where if that turbine didn't have problems, we would have had no flooding.
If the water requirements are 300 percent of capacity, it doesn't matter much if the pump capacity is running at 100 percent or 70 percent. You are still going to have water in the streets.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:00 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Show me where if that turbine didn't have problems, we would have had no flooding.
Probably wouldnt have had as much....and the flooding just seems to be mostly cars and whatnot...I havent seen any major homes being flooded.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:16 pm to LSUFanHouston
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that's very possible but who will pay for that?
Its been paid for 100 times over since they needed replacing. Try looking in Destroya's purse.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:24 pm to shawnlsu
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Its been paid for 100 times over since they needed replacing. Try looking in Destroya's purse.
You know that money has been stolen long before Destroya came along.
That money is in the pockets of those who have run city government - and their brothers in law - for 100 years.
That money is gone.
So I'll ask again... who is going to pay for it?
We know the past is corrupt and that money was stolen many times over. The needs still exist. Who is going to pay for it?
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:25 pm to shawnlsu
I'm not from the NO area, and I haven't really studied it, but how much Federal money was granted to New Orleans post-Katrina that was earmarked specifically for mitigating future flooding issues?
With every passing storm, there are people who say the local politicians are on tv pandering for Fed money for their cities. I'm assuming a certain amount money for Katrina recovery would have been marked for use in improving the city's flooding issues.
Is there some place that accounts for actual projects that money was used for or otherwise documents where the money was used?
I don't mean recovery for the people, but funds managed by the city.
With every passing storm, there are people who say the local politicians are on tv pandering for Fed money for their cities. I'm assuming a certain amount money for Katrina recovery would have been marked for use in improving the city's flooding issues.
Is there some place that accounts for actual projects that money was used for or otherwise documents where the money was used?
I don't mean recovery for the people, but funds managed by the city.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:29 pm to jlovel7
No worries. Chocolate floats.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:35 pm to ljhog
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New Orleans is a shithole.
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filled with water
I believe that's the definition of a septic tank
New Orleans is a shithole.
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filled with water
I believe that's the definition of a septic tank
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:40 pm to jlovel7
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New Orleans is flooding
I prefer the montra
New Orleans Rising
Posted on 6/10/20 at 2:45 pm to Mud_Till_May
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New Orleans is flooding
quote:Checks out...
Mud_Till_May
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:13 pm to LSUFanHouston
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So you mean like resiliency projects like water storage? A) those cost money and B) a lot of people don't want to give up the land for it.
Yes, large-scale interventions are part of the solution. Many other things, as well. You're right that they cost money: An estimated $6.2 billion. Land will be necessary, too. Hundreds of acres throughout the metro area. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be done. The city is sinking and the drainage infrastructure outside of the main outfall canals are shot. They have to be done if the city wants to save itself. That's not hyperbole.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:38 pm to LegendInMyMind
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but how much Federal money was granted to New Orleans post-Katrina that was earmarked specifically for mitigating future flooding issues?
For interior rainfall drainage? Not a lot, honestly, and that's because FEMA knew that the city's drainage issues go back decades.
Billions were provided for "flood protection" but that was from storm flooding, not interior flooding. So we got lots of rebuilt levees, floodwalls, outfall canal pumps, closure complexes, etc.
But all that is to prevent water coming into the city from local bodies of water, not to deal with the water that comes from the sky.
Posted on 6/10/20 at 3:39 pm to BottomlandBrew
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They have to be done if the city wants to save itself. That's not hyperbole.
Totally understand that.
But who's money and who's land will be used? That's the issue. The political connections won't allow the "rich" land to be used, and if the "poor" land is used, holy cow the racial accusations that will come.
The political solutions are much more complicated than the engineering solutions.
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 3:40 pm
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