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Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:46 am to
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
141278 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:46 am to
Shut it down, and rebuild above sea level with less liberal leadership. Problem solved.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
61375 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:46 am to
top of the page post success

ETA: ALSO FAIL
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 9:47 am
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138866 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:46 am to
glad to see that all the pump station infrastructure money went to good use
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291698 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:49 am to
are the pumps not working or are they just not manning them correctly? would love to know

I have 3 storm drains in direct vicinity of my property and none of them drain. They arent obstructed either. It's weird
This post was edited on 6/10/20 at 9:51 am
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

are the pumps not working or are they just not manning them correctly? would love to know



I just went drive by the Broad Street station and the 2 blowers were on but I couldnt hear any pumps running. Im not sure if you would be able to hear them or not but I would think I could.

The water in the canal was high but nowhere near the top and it was moving somewhat at a nice click but it wasnt flowing fast.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291698 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:58 am to
I dont know if its because i didnt realize heavy rain was in the forecast, but i feel like they were caught off guard.
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30310 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:59 am to
quote:

New Orleans is flooding


SHUT

IT

DOWN!!!
Posted by Large Farva
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2013
8750 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 9:59 am to
Iirc, turbine 3 was down on Saturday and swb said they were using some type of alternative that was going to be very noisy.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:00 am to
Thankfully we dont have any street flooding in my neighborhood this time....We flooded last summer and had a close call on the May 14th flood
Posted by Mr Perfect
Member since Mar 2010
17836 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:01 am to
how long do it take to get the pumps running.

prob shut it down yesterday thinking everything was over. we need to cancel swbno
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Iirc, turbine 3 was down on Saturday and swb said they were using some type of alternative that was going to be very noisy.



that was at the Claiborne station...they said they were going to use the EMD's which are very loud diesel engines.. they are as loud as a locomotive
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
18317 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:03 am to
I thought the confederate statue removal and Ghana visit would’ve fixed the drainage?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
291698 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:05 am to
Im not flooding per se either, but the drain directly across the street from my house is sucking water, but the 3 in the direct vicinity of my house and just stagnant. It happens every rain event. 311 shows they were cleaned out in 2019. I have no explanation.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:06 am to
looks like all the rain has moved out....
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36817 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:08 am to
quote:

remember when I say we never flood on big storms



I 'member at least 1
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
12302 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:09 am to
quote:

I have 3 storm drains in direct vicinity of my property and none of them drain. They arent obstructed either. It's weird




Gravity man, gravity.


I’m no engineer. But If you are in a hole, water won’t drain up.
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11902 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:10 am to
In some cases the pipes leading from the storm drain are filled with tree roots limiting their flow significantly. They will back up and appear stagnated for a while at that point. They could also just be filled with other gunk and someone needs to actually clean the exit pipe not inside the storm drain. Taking a hose and blasting it through there basically.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41888 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:10 am to
my pumps were working, water was draining, then it stopped and now even though the rain is over the water is just stagnant

so, im thinking the system malfunctioned, because why else would it be working and then all of a sudden just quit?
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
30222 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:11 am to
quote:

upgrade pumping capacity


Pumps are only part of the problem.

Realistically, 3-4 inches in an hour will flood the best systems. If memory serves me correct, that's about a 10-year 1-hour storm. When I did design work down there, we'd shoot for handling 3.25" on-site. That's only for new construction. It doesn't do much good because 97% of the old properties in Nola have 0% storage capacity, so all of their water gets dumped into the public infrastructure.

The public infrastructure is a mess, to say the least. Subsidence has absolutely wrecked the subsurface drainage system. And the ironic thing is that our early success at draining the water is the main contributor to the flooding today. Even in a drought, the pumps are still pumping water. So much groundwater leaks in to the drainage pipes and canals and requires 24/7 pumping. This lowers the water table, which in turn allows oxygen to break down the organic components of the soil, which causes subsidence.

Say the system was designed to drain your street to the next street 100 years ago. Well, your street has now sunk more than the street you were draining in to, so you're now in a bowl with no where for your water to go, plus you're now taking on water from elsewhere. Doesn't matter if your catch basin is clogged or not, you're going to flood.

I don't believe the region is capable of saving itself. There are some very smart people who know the problems and know how to fix them, but they can't get any big-time players to buy in. Doesn't help that leadership in the entire metro area is a disaster. It will take people who are willing to forgo their next political term to make the right decisions today. People will be angry at them. It will cost everyone a lot of money and a lot of headaches, and it will cost the leaders votes because the time frame on construction is way longer than 4 year term.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79896 posts
Posted on 6/10/20 at 10:11 am to
So what flooded?
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