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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban

Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:12 pm to
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:12 pm to
are you really not intelligent enough to understand that the argument has nothing to do with whether or not people have the ability to smoke somewhere, but everything to do with whether or not the government can force a legal practice to be banned in a private establishment.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
16734 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:12 pm to
As much as I dislike this from a freedom point of view, it makes an amazing difference in quality of visits to establishments that use to allow smoking.

Tennessee did something similar awhile ago and I am so use to not breathing in that shite in restaurants that it is fricking terrible when I do go in a place that allows smoking.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50399 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

Are there any bars that ban smoking now?



In New Orleans? Tons. Again, all of the hotel bars (which are mostly awesome). Lucy's, Rusty Nail, and Barcadia in the CBD are all really popular. Tipitina's Uptown.
Posted by Adam4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2008
13763 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

smoking outside of bars has nothing to do with this discussion


Except for the fact that it was included in the OP's quote.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476745 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

It's not itrleveant. Smokers can still easily smoke. Even without leaving the premise of the establishment they're at.

it is irrelevant b/c this discussion is about smoking inside of bars. y'all are trying to expand the discussion to make a point

that's intellectual dishonesty and has no place in a civilized discussion
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
31586 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

It isn't the government's place to tell businesses they can't allow patrons to smoke.


The government was chosen by the people it represents. Sorry you don't like majority rule.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

why are people so dumb that can't understand laws like this are an erosion of liberty?


I'm not OK with liberty looking like Louisiana's coast line. I would prefer to see many many other laws stricken from the books LONG before I look at this laws affect on my life.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
28324 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

For all of you whining and bitching that you'll take your business elsewhere - you won't. You'll push your fat arse out of your seats and step outside to smoke, which isn't that big of an ordeal anyway. Your laziness fuels your addiction and there's no way you'll drive an extra hour to go to a bar or casino when there's one right across the street.


quote:

I get it. The sky is falling. Rabble rabble gubermint tellin me how to live my life rabble rabble. At least all of us will be able to fricking breathe in a bar while said sky is falling.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476745 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Smokers are self righteous for thinking they can smoke wherever they want.

this is about businesses making that choice on their own property
Posted by DirtyMikeandtheBoys
Member since May 2011
19467 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

Sorry you don't like majority rule.


this practice has been out of use since the 1850's old chap
Posted by Teufelhunden
Galvez, LA
Member since Feb 2005
6039 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
For the lawyers in here, have business or the tobacco companies tried to get these types of bans overturned? If so, what have the courts said?
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89130 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:14 pm to
You said it wasn't a trade off, now you're trying to exclude anything that shows it is a trade off.

No doubt you're a lawyer.
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 2:15 pm
Posted by chillygentilly
70122
Member since Aug 2012
2640 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:14 pm to


LaToya Cantrell also held up a picture of Dorothy Mae Taylor at today's vote. That will be sure to rustle some jimmies here.
Posted by htownjeep
Republic of Texas
Member since Jun 2005
7800 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Are there any bars that ban smoking now?


Finn McCool's did. I know there was another that di too. Finn's made an outdoor smoking area.

Good for them! And I support their decision to do with what they thought was in the best interest of their business. This is how it should be. It shouldn't be the government making every bar do this against their will.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86192 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

I would prefer to see many many other laws stricken from the books LONG before I look at this laws affect on my life.


so your point is that since we already have a bunch of bullshite laws, adding more bullshite laws is ok?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
Yay Liberty!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476745 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Except for the fact that it was included in the OP's quote.

but we're discussing the ban, which applies to smoking inside of bars

nothing changed smoking in a courtyard associated with a bar. why would that be subject to this discussion?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476745 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

The government was chosen by the people it represents. Sorry you don't like majority rule.

aye, comrade
Posted by Hammertime
Will trade dowsing rod for titties
Member since Jan 2012
43031 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:15 pm to
Pretty sure the bars I frequent won't follow the ban. They'd lose 95% of their customers.

If you're not gonna let me smoke in/around your bar, I won't come to your bar. Simple as that
Posted by rlebl39
League City, TX
Member since Jun 2011
4793 posts
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:16 pm to
quote:

I guess you haven't read the numerous threads about taxing the obese and whatnot.


Yes I know all about the sugar tax crap in New York.

You are just trying to get people riled up on another topic of government oppression, thus your are trolling.

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