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re: New Orleans City Council Passes Smoking Ban
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:21 pm to Tiger in NY
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:21 pm to Tiger in NY
quote:
every town and city in America has ordinances that affect how businesses are run.
and i don't agree with almost all of them. i believe in rights that protect persons against government tyranny
property rights are a HUGE part of that (probably the biggest). those laws violate property rights
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Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:21 pm to Horsemeat
quote:
You people don't realize how many people DONT go to bars because of the smoke
I have heard this, but with plenty of non smoking options they still don't go.
Mrs Mae's won't be slammed on this news.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:21 pm to TigerWise
quote:
i feel sorry for people who live near bars like Snake & Jakes
If any bar in the city is going to completely ignore the law, it will be Snake and Jakes.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:21 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
It's a public health issue. Honestly it shouldn't be their choice
No one forces you to enter a smoke friendly bar. why is this so hard to understand?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:22 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Smokers do not have a smoking bar option to go to now.
Go to the cigar/hookah bars. Smoke your little heart out..or you can just smoke outside whatever bar you want.
Problem = SOLVED
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:22 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Heart disease dwarfs any smoke-related deaths in this county. On your premise, the same restaurants should be restricted in the caloric totals of provided meals to patrons. I mean, it's a public health issue.
It's a public health issue. Honestly it shouldn't be their choice
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:22 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
It's a public health issue. Honestly it shouldn't be their choice
what other choices do you want to make for consenting adults? can we get a list? why stop at smoking inside?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:22 pm to THRILLHO
quote:
If any bar in the city is going to completely ignore the law, it will be Snake and Jakes.
true
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:23 pm to Alabamya
I mean, if you're gonna go into a bar with a door buzzer and barely any lights, what do you expect? fricking hipsters prolly bitching about all of their new found "hole-in-the-wall" bars being smoky.
So would the ATF enforce this, or NOPD? If NOPD, do they really think it is a good idea to remove cops from the street and make them go around smelling the insides of bars? Aren't they always bitching about not enough cops and or money to do their jobs?
So would the ATF enforce this, or NOPD? If NOPD, do they really think it is a good idea to remove cops from the street and make them go around smelling the insides of bars? Aren't they always bitching about not enough cops and or money to do their jobs?
quote:Then you'd better find a cow and bring a spoon because there will be bars that DGAF, and I'll just move to them. I seriously doubt that the bars I frequent will change though. I'd be willing to put money on it
I'm going to go ahead and call BS on this
This post was edited on 1/22/15 at 2:26 pm
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:23 pm to Catman88
quote:
How many laws have you tried to change?
I have voted against every one.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:23 pm to Winkface
I was in my second year of undergrad when my city changed the rules on this. It is so much better going to bars without it being a gross arse smokey place. The biggest was in the casinos, it made it a way more enjoyable experience.
None of the bars had business affected. People just went outside which isn't a big deal even in the winter here.
None of the bars had business affected. People just went outside which isn't a big deal even in the winter here.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:23 pm to Horsemeat
quote:
You people don't realize how many people DONT go to bars because of the smoke.
then why not let the market decide and have the non-smoking bars dominate the market?
let non-smoking bars win the war of ideas by having better ideas. what's so wrong about that?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:23 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
I have heard this, but with plenty of non smoking options they still don't go.
Honestly I had no idea any of the bars previously listed were smoke free. Most are newer bars I have not visited. As Im almost 37 I do not frequent bars as often. Tips Uptown must have been a new change.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
what other choices do you want to make for consenting adults? can we get a list? why stop at smoking inside?
I'd vote yes for banning smoking in your car with kids inside. Can't stand to see that shite but it's mostly trashy people so it wouldn't really change anything.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:24 pm to fightin tigers
quote:
Smokers do not have a smoking bar option to go to now.
Yes they do. They just won't be doing it inside the bar. They will still be able to do it in the bars outside area. People are just stuck on the inside part.
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:24 pm to Adam4LSU
"Sorry, you have to smoke outside. Please finish snorting that line off the bar before you leave to light up."
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:24 pm to Rouge
quote:
Heart disease dwarfs any smoke-related deaths in this county. On your premise, the same restaurants should be restricted in the caloric totals of provides meals to patrons. I mean, it's a public health issue.
Ban popeyes
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:24 pm to Adam4LSU
quote:
Go to the cigar/hookah bars. Smoke your little heart out..or you can just smoke outside whatever bar you want.
Problem = SOLVED
except that doesn't solve the actual problem at all
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:24 pm to fightin tigers
You voted down new laws.
I helped put on the ballot the ability to vote down an old law.
But I'm complacent?
I helped put on the ballot the ability to vote down an old law.
But I'm complacent?
Posted on 1/22/15 at 2:25 pm to Bags of Milk
quote:you're familiar with all of their books?
None of the bars had business affected.
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