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re: Net Neutrality LIVE Vote • OFFICIAL RESULTS • Neutrality is Abolished

Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by LSU316
Rice and Easy Baby!!!
Member since Nov 2007
30280 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:55 pm to
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No.

That's not what this is about. I hate that fricking argument.


That is absolutely what this is about. Charging more to access another tier of web site. That is exactly what the fear mongering is. The flyers from reddit....that is it...period.
Posted by bconne1
Member since Jun 2006
776 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:55 pm to
Today I learned that internet is a basic human right. Lol.
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11817 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:55 pm to
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I'm certain the FTC will have something to say about that.....that falls outside of what is currently under scrutiny by the courts on that front in my opinion.


How will little Joe Blow get in front of the FTC? How can little Joe Blow afford attorneys that can fight ISP's attorney's?
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Until someone decides to change the market with something new and innovative.


You can't claim a victory for innovation when you're route to get there was disastrous for consumers.

That's like the FCC stating cable monopolies are the reason for Netflix, ergo, cable monopolies are a good thing.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
Member since Oct 2007
45656 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:55 pm to
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Because picking a fight with Washington has proven to be a bad idea under this administration. 


Current Trump administration is exceptionally small, petty and stupid. Agree there.
Posted by 25 Point Lead
Member since Nov 2017
575 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

'm certain the FTC will have something to say about that.....that falls outside of what is currently under scrutiny by the courts on that front in my opinion.


It's already happened before with isis
Posted by LSUBoo
Knoxville, TN
Member since Mar 2006
104039 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Paul Gosar, Arizona, $12,250
Richard W. Allen, Georgia, $24,250
Kevin Cramer, North Dakota, $168,500
Greg Walden, Oregon, $1,605,986


Sure must suck to sell out for $12K and then see that someone else got a nice $1.6M.
Posted by 50_Tiger
Arlington TX
Member since Jan 2016
43449 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:57 pm to
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You know what the biggest cable providers are doing right now? Buying all the spectrum so no one can use it.


This is factually false.

600Mhz / 700Mhz were recently bought in different capacities by the big three carriers for 5G.

Do you understand why 600Mhz and 700Mhz are significantly more valuable than higher frequency spectrum?
Posted by Old Money
LSU
Member since Sep 2012
41778 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:57 pm to
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Props to Greg Walden though


Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
63207 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:58 pm to
Wait, I thought it was repealed by the five voters on the fcc
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
Member since Jan 2010
69549 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:58 pm to
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That is absolutely what this is about.


No. It's not. It's about protecting content from ISPs.

It's about fair treatment of traffic across a pipe.

It's about ensuring that ISPs do not have direct control over content and innovation over the open internet

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That is exactly what the fear mongering is. The flyers from reddit....that is it


I don't give a frick what the fliers on reddit say. I hate that website and I never go on it. They don't dictate what the issue is.
Posted by Flame Salamander
Texas Gulf - Clear Lake
Member since Jan 2012
3044 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:58 pm to
No more free porn???
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
182300 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:58 pm to
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why is net neutrality a bad thing?


Off the top of my head? It's crony capitalism and stifles innovation.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:58 pm to
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The IP owner just made a shite ton of money? Sounds like he won right?


And the consumer?
Posted by Groovie
San Diego,California
Member since Aug 2013
460 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:59 pm to
So is this the result of cable companies losing money on cord cutting so they are trying to find another way of getting it back?
Posted by SUB
Silver Tier TD Premium
Member since Jan 2009
25525 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:59 pm to
My hope is that if some of these ISP's actually try to push on charging more for certain sites, the world community will find ways around it. For instance, if it wants to charge you more to use Netflix, then a pass through site that isn't blocked may be the way around it, much like VPN. The ISP would only see data coming through the pass through site, and not Netflix. Eventually they'll just give up because their efforts will be fruitless.

This is how people in China get access to blocked sites.

I hope...
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted by Pilot Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2005
74021 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:59 pm to
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Sure must suck to sell out for $12K and then see that someone else got a nice $1.6M


Some whores are more high class than others
Posted by webman
LC
Member since Apr 2006
651 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:59 pm to
I don't know whether this is gonna be good or bad. It depends on which side you're on, republican or democrat, from what I'm reading.

My understanding is that this was passed during the Obama administration? My head tells me that being the case then repealing won't be a bad thing. If its just going back to the way it was before 2008 then OK I guess.

Posted by 4WHLN
Drinking at the Cottage Inn
Member since Mar 2013
7638 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:59 pm to
frick....
















frick
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91838 posts
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:00 pm to
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why is net neutrality a bad thing? Off the top of my head? It's crony capitalism and stifles innovation.









There is simply no way you can understand net neutrality and think it is crony capitalism and/or stifles innovation.

It literally is the exact opposite of that.
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