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re: Net Neutrality LIVE Vote • OFFICIAL RESULTS • Neutrality is Abolished
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm to LSU316
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm to LSU316
quote:
If this is the case why have players like Google, Amazon, Netflix, etc disappeared from this argument over the last year+?
A) Because this repeal won't negatively affect a massive internet enterprise.
B) Because picking a fight with Washington has proven to be a bad idea under this administration.
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm to Harry Caray
quote:
Lowest package is $75/month for 4MBps download??
Just think he's only that high because up until he came along in the areas he is in there was only one ISP not counting satellite internet and they were more expensive.
Like I said, an open market will create competition if there is money to be made. It's a pretty simple concept. Now get the Gov to cut the red tape and you would see more ISPs flourish.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm to colorchangintiger
quote:This is the reason America dominates. The talent goes where the talent can get things done.
I mean, most of the world adhere's to net neutrality, so this argument makes no sense.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm to TigerFred
quote:because we're wayyyyyy too far down the rabbit hole to then turn around and say ok NOW let's let the free market work.
I’m having a hard time understanding why this bad
we had decades of corporatism and legal monopolies have basically been established. we're not getting a free market
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:44 pm to TigerFred
quote:
view this like electric companies. Texas is deregulated and the competition for your business is good.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:45 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:kinda like parroting..."free market" or small government is the answer...to everything?
People reading talking points off of social media
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:46 pm to slackster
The baws who sold us out:
Mo Brooks, Alabama, $26,000
Ron Estes, Kansas, $13,807
Thomas Massie, Kentucky, $25,000
Ralph Norman, South Carolina, $15,050
John Moolenaar, Michigan, $25,000
Neal Dunn, Florida, $18,500
Mike Bishop, Michigan, $68,250
Alex Mooney, West Virginia, $17,750
Glenn “GT” Thompson, Pennsylvania, $70,500
Blaine Luetkemeyer, Missouri, $105,000
Paul Gosar, Arizona, $12,250
Richard W. Allen, Georgia, $24,250
Kevin Cramer, North Dakota, $168,500
Greg Walden, Oregon, $1,605,986
Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee, $600,999
Billy Long, Missouri, $221,500
Gregg Harper, Mississippi, $245,200
Brett Guthrie, Kentucky, $398,500
Bill Johnson, Ohio, $196,666
Jeff Duncan, South Carolina, $41,830
Earl “Buddy” Carter, Georgia, $39,250
Susan Brooks, Indiana, $168,500
Gus Bilirakis, Florida, $234,400
Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma, $141,750
Mimi Walters, California, $161,500
Joe Barton, Texas, $1,262,757
Bill Flores, Texas, $127,500
Pete Olson, Texas, $220,500
Morgan Griffith, Virginia, $198,900
Tim Walberg, Michigan, $131,850
Fred Upton, Michigan, $1,590,125
Joe Wilson, South Carolina, $104,750
Martha McSally, Arizona, $84,936
Blake Farenthold, Texas, $64,250
Steve Womack, Arkansas, $104,750
Tom Marino, Pennsylvania, $130,700
Louie Gohmert, Texas, $85,055
Walter Jones, North Carolina, $72,800
Leonard Lance, New Jersey, $290,550
Steve Chabot, Ohio, $332,083
Bob Goodlatte, Virginia, $815,099
Andy Biggs, Arizona, $19,500
Mark Walker, North Carolina, $35,750
Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin, $21,200
Ken Buck, Colorado, $79,350
Larry Bucshon, Indiana, $71,750
Chuck Fleischmann, Tennessee, $42,00
David Rouzer, North Carolina, $34,300
Paul Mitchell, Michigan, $18,000
Hal Rogers, Kentucky, $360,450
Doug Collins, Georgia, $103,600
Ralph Abraham, Louisiana, $27,300
Mark Meadows, North Carolina, $14,500
Michael McCaul, Texas, $216,500
Jeb Hensarling, Texas, $270,198
Mike Simpson, Idaho, $125,200
Tom Emmer, Minnesota, $28,500
Randy Weber, Texas, $13,750
Rob Woodall, Georgia, $60,250
Ted Budd, North Carolina, $15,500
Ken Calvert, California, $219,212
Diane Black, Tennessee, $104,750
Virginia Foxx, North Carolina, $115,700
Sam Johnson, Texas, $219,785
James Comer, Kentucky, $22,750
Trey Gowdy, South Carolina, $83,250
Lamar Smith, Texas, $810,462
Steven A King, Iowa, $210,810
George Holding, North Carolina, $97,750
Rob Wittman, Virginia, $57,250
John Lee Ratcliffe, Texas, $53,950
Jason Lewis, Minnesota, $21,050
Jim Banks, Indiana, $16,303
Bill Huizenga, Michigan, $34,000
Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania, $202,500
Steven Russell, Oklahoma, $23,500
Adrian Smith, Nebraska, $165,834
Jody B Hice, Georgia, $21,000
Richard Hudson, North Carolina, $136,750
Douglas L Lamborn, Colorado, $110,543
Chris Collins, New York, $151,060
Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, Washington, $673,530
Brad Wenstrup, Ohio, $33,750
Andy Barr, Kentucky, $51,100
Mo Brooks, Alabama, $26,000
Ron Estes, Kansas, $13,807
Thomas Massie, Kentucky, $25,000
Ralph Norman, South Carolina, $15,050
John Moolenaar, Michigan, $25,000
Neal Dunn, Florida, $18,500
Mike Bishop, Michigan, $68,250
Alex Mooney, West Virginia, $17,750
Glenn “GT” Thompson, Pennsylvania, $70,500
Blaine Luetkemeyer, Missouri, $105,000
Paul Gosar, Arizona, $12,250
Richard W. Allen, Georgia, $24,250
Kevin Cramer, North Dakota, $168,500
Greg Walden, Oregon, $1,605,986
Marsha Blackburn, Tennessee, $600,999
Billy Long, Missouri, $221,500
Gregg Harper, Mississippi, $245,200
Brett Guthrie, Kentucky, $398,500
Bill Johnson, Ohio, $196,666
Jeff Duncan, South Carolina, $41,830
Earl “Buddy” Carter, Georgia, $39,250
Susan Brooks, Indiana, $168,500
Gus Bilirakis, Florida, $234,400
Markwayne Mullin, Oklahoma, $141,750
Mimi Walters, California, $161,500
Joe Barton, Texas, $1,262,757
Bill Flores, Texas, $127,500
Pete Olson, Texas, $220,500
Morgan Griffith, Virginia, $198,900
Tim Walberg, Michigan, $131,850
Fred Upton, Michigan, $1,590,125
Joe Wilson, South Carolina, $104,750
Martha McSally, Arizona, $84,936
Blake Farenthold, Texas, $64,250
Steve Womack, Arkansas, $104,750
Tom Marino, Pennsylvania, $130,700
Louie Gohmert, Texas, $85,055
Walter Jones, North Carolina, $72,800
Leonard Lance, New Jersey, $290,550
Steve Chabot, Ohio, $332,083
Bob Goodlatte, Virginia, $815,099
Andy Biggs, Arizona, $19,500
Mark Walker, North Carolina, $35,750
Glenn Grothman, Wisconsin, $21,200
Ken Buck, Colorado, $79,350
Larry Bucshon, Indiana, $71,750
Chuck Fleischmann, Tennessee, $42,00
David Rouzer, North Carolina, $34,300
Paul Mitchell, Michigan, $18,000
Hal Rogers, Kentucky, $360,450
Doug Collins, Georgia, $103,600
Ralph Abraham, Louisiana, $27,300
Mark Meadows, North Carolina, $14,500
Michael McCaul, Texas, $216,500
Jeb Hensarling, Texas, $270,198
Mike Simpson, Idaho, $125,200
Tom Emmer, Minnesota, $28,500
Randy Weber, Texas, $13,750
Rob Woodall, Georgia, $60,250
Ted Budd, North Carolina, $15,500
Ken Calvert, California, $219,212
Diane Black, Tennessee, $104,750
Virginia Foxx, North Carolina, $115,700
Sam Johnson, Texas, $219,785
James Comer, Kentucky, $22,750
Trey Gowdy, South Carolina, $83,250
Lamar Smith, Texas, $810,462
Steven A King, Iowa, $210,810
George Holding, North Carolina, $97,750
Rob Wittman, Virginia, $57,250
John Lee Ratcliffe, Texas, $53,950
Jason Lewis, Minnesota, $21,050
Jim Banks, Indiana, $16,303
Bill Huizenga, Michigan, $34,000
Bill Shuster, Pennsylvania, $202,500
Steven Russell, Oklahoma, $23,500
Adrian Smith, Nebraska, $165,834
Jody B Hice, Georgia, $21,000
Richard Hudson, North Carolina, $136,750
Douglas L Lamborn, Colorado, $110,543
Chris Collins, New York, $151,060
Cathy McMorris-Rodgers, Washington, $673,530
Brad Wenstrup, Ohio, $33,750
Andy Barr, Kentucky, $51,100
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:46 pm to rocket31
quote:
thats that.
vote is offiical
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:46 pm to stout
quote:
Like I said, an open market will create competition if there is money to be made. It's a pretty simple concept. Now get the Gov to cut the red tape and you would see more ISPs flourish.
None of that is a reason for a repeal of net neutrality though.
If there was ever a "red tape" to be had, it was the concept that ISPs sell you the internet and you do with it what you'd like. That was just changed.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:46 pm to Pilot Tiger
Using Fred's example, I like having 6 different electric providers I can switch to and keep my kw/h rate low.
Why shouldn't this be the same with ISP's?
Why shouldn't this be the same with ISP's?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to stout
quote:
There is a guy in Shreveport and one in Lake Charles that each started a WSIP (Wireless Internet Service Provider) They are killing it with demand because people are tired of the large companies and also because they offer great packages. There will always be competition in an open market if there is money to be made
I’m no expert on the ISP coverage in that area, but the prices on that website look aggressively uncompetitive compared to larger ISPs
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to Pilot Tiger
so, how will this affect my pron viewing?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:47 pm to TigerFred
quote:
I’m having a hard time understanding why this bad.
I am at a lost why most are complaining here. Over half the people here are in the top 5% of wealth, so they should be able to buy the best plan.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm to MorbidTheClown
quote:
so, how will this affect my pron viewing?
You'll just have to talk your wife into letting you get the Porn package add-on.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm to tigerfan88
quote:
But people are falling for the same Reaganomivs trickle down bullshite as always, “give us super rich corporations way more money and we’ll give you a better product.” bullshite. They’ll give a better product if you can pay out the arse. Most people will the same internet experience at a higher cost
Republican voters aren't the brightest and typically vote against there own self interest except for the wealthy.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:48 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:
Why shouldn't this be the same with ISP's?
It should be but we are behind the rest of the world when it comes to access. Google has all but given up on Google Fiber because of red tape regulations.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:49 pm to Pilot Tiger
People said the exact same thing about electric companies and the opposite happened.
Competition drove the prices down.
If my ISP charges me more for the data that I use I can find another provider, or choose to pay for what I use, or decrease the data that I use.
Competition drove the prices down.
If my ISP charges me more for the data that I use I can find another provider, or choose to pay for what I use, or decrease the data that I use.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:49 pm to Old Money
Most of those bribes arent even good ones
Props to Greg Walden though
Props to Greg Walden though
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 12:51 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to Pilot Tiger
quote:
we had decades of corporatism and legal monopolies have basically been established. we're not getting a free market
unfortunately you're right
Posted on 12/14/17 at 12:50 pm to rocket31
Does everyone really think every internet provider will start jacking up thier rates?
Pffft. This isn't like the cable companies of the past where, based on where you lived, you only had one monopolistic choice for cable. Since we all still have many choices for ISPs, competition will keep prices down for all of us.
Pffft. This isn't like the cable companies of the past where, based on where you lived, you only had one monopolistic choice for cable. Since we all still have many choices for ISPs, competition will keep prices down for all of us.
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