re: Net Neutrality LIVE Vote • OFFICIAL RESULTS • Neutrality is Abolished

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do however know telecom. People downvoting have shown to have a small understanding of actual infrastructure and the true dollar amount of what it takes to have internet broadcasted.

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That's literally the reason these rules are necessary and the idea of the small business ISP is silly when it comes to broadband currently

The barriers to entry are too great.

I'd be all for creating rules like Texas did though for ISPs as the American taxpayer has already paid for fiber lines to be laid down with pathetic returns on that investment.

Make those ISPs lease their lines out to other providers forcing competition. The American taxpayer already bought those lines

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None of that makes the internet an unalienable human right.

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are people suggesting it is? no

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Donald Trump and the GOP are the biggest blemish on this country since slavery.

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This kind of bs doesn't at all help persuade anyone that doesn't understand the issue.

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Yes, and how big of an impact do you think that had? Of course, it prevents someone from sharing their user ID / PW with 500 people, but who was doing that in the first place?

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touche'

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instead of bandwidth being clogged by people torrenting Frozen in 4K even though they still have a 1080p TV.

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So like .005% of internet users? I'd image the majority of people that use the internet on a day-to-day basis don't even know what a torrent is.

But stout, isn't that pay scale already present for a lot of accounts?

I pay more to use more bandwidth.

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The way I understand it, with Net Neutrality everyone paid the same price no matter of the data used. Without Net Neutrality the ISP's can charge by the amount of data used.

So if I understand it correctly, person A uses 500 Gb a month and person B uses 1Gb month. Without Net Neutrality Person A can be charged more than person B for their monthly usage

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This isn't correct. It was an issue on unlimited data plans with throttling, but ISPs are allowed to charge by data consumption: see cell phone plans.

What it does help prevent is forcing, using a real life example here, Netflix to pay not only their ISP but also the consumer's ISP for the data they are consuming. That creates a slippery slope.

I'm already paying for 1 GB/s where I'm at, I should have equal access to the internet without throttling based on that. I'm already paying for it

That's the very rough and simplified argument for it

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Maybe I'm missing something on this deal.

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Yes. You are.

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The way I understand it, with Net Neutrality everyone paid the same price no matter of the data used. Without Net Neutrality the ISP's can charge by the amount of data used. 

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That has almost literally nothing to do with Net Neutrality.

Under NN, an ISP, such as Comcast, has to treat all internet traffic the same. They cannot pick and choose which sites and programs run faster or slower. They can offer speed tiers, but all traffic must be treated the same on each tier.

Without NN, they have the ability to decide which companies and sites can operate at which speeds without any input or check from the end user aka the consumer.

So, Comcast could partner with Netflix and allow Netflix to run at ultra high speed unlimited on their network and then slowdown or even block Hulu and Amazon. The end users in the markets dominated by Comcast have no option but to use Netflix and the free market doesn't exist.

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Will porn and TD still be available free? That's all I really need.

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Not necessarily.

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Yes. It will also keep lanes open for high usage people that want to pay for that usage instead of bandwidth being clogged by people torrenting Frozen in 4K even though they still have a 1080p TV.

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The answer to that question is absolutely not "Yes".

Jesus Christ