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re: Net Neutrality LIVE Vote • OFFICIAL RESULTS • Neutrality is Abolished
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to 50_Tiger
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to 50_Tiger
quote:right because the "reduced regulations" of Net Neutrality being gone, tons of ISPs will be able to swoop in to rural Alabama and compete for Joe the Plumber's business
But doing something like that or whatever equivocal would not be what's best for business.
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to stout
Come on dude. You don't seriously think this move is letting at&t, Comcast, or time Warner have more competition 
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to 50_Tiger
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But doing something like that or whatever equivocal would not be what's best for business. You are killing your ad income.
Not everything is about immediate income. Being able to control the narrative people are able to access on the internet to your benefit is worth more than a few million bucks from juice cleanse ads.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:30 pm to TigerFred
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It sounds like this affects the cord cutters more than anyone.
What? Lets not use a streaming service example.
Let's say reddit decides to pay Comcast to prioritize its data and simultaneously throttle any other rival blog sites and now when you try to use tigerdroppings.com it take 30 minutes to load a page, but you can go to reddit and every page loads in an instant.
The end user is paying Comcast for an internet speed that's now being throttled with no way to change that. Comcast doesn't offer a "speedy TD" option and I don't have any other high speed ISPs in my areas, so goodbye tigerdroppings.com. There's nothing I can do about it.
So Comcast now comes to tigerdroppings.com and says chicken can either pay them x amount to be treated fairly or basically just die off. Chicken can pay that amount, and now Comcast is double dipping for fees, and there's no guarantee reddit won't wait until chicken is almost out of money or operating just barely above water and then increase that price to shut him down completly
Use the same analogy but say ESPN wants to have all NCAA related news on its website so it simply lobbies the big ISPs the throttle all Ncaa blog and news sites.
Does that analogy work better for you?
Here's how it impacts Silicon Valley and American control over the internet and tech industry: The next Google develops a search algorithm that is an amazing new use of technology the likes of which have never been seen before. But he can't start a website because Google pays all ISPs to shite down his access. Google strong arms him out the game and then buys his technology for next to nothing or simply shuts it down stifling innovation and creativity.
Does that help?
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:32 pm to TH03
only the hackiest of right wing hacks would think repealing net neutrality is the "small government" or "free market" solution
It's beyond ridiculous
It's beyond ridiculous
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:32 pm to Tigeralum2008
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ISP's do not have ad income, their revenue is generated via subscriber fees
Eh not all the way true. For instance, Spectrum advertises their business platform all the time. If you lose subscribers due to lack of a popular platform, that business line can have some impact.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:32 pm to TH03
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You don't seriously think this move is letting at&t, Comcast, or time Warner have more competition
What I posted earlier...
The only strategy that will actually have an impact on the ISP monopoly is deregulation and getting rid of NN is the first step in that IMO. Get the Gov out of it as much as possible.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:33 pm to Pilot Tiger
Is there a particular post or explanation of the pros and cons of this NN vote? I have the basic idea behind it but beyond that am a little lost as to what will likely happen from this and how much it'll affect my life.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:33 pm to Pilot Tiger
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to Brageous
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Is there a particular post or explanation of the pros and cons of this NN vote? I have the basic idea behind it but beyond that am a little lost as to what will likely happen from this and how much it'll affect my life.
No more free porn sites or alt news sites.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to TH03
I could totally see those guys supporting something that enables more competition for them
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to stout
quote:please explain to us how that works
The only strategy that will actually have an impact on the ISP monopoly is deregulation
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to Pilot Tiger
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only the hackiest of right wing hacks would think repealing net neutrality is the "small government" or "free market" solution
I have stated my reasons for wanting the Gov out of the internet and they have nothing to do with supporting the party line.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to Breesus
quote:Then I guess I’d go to another site instead acting like whiny bitch on this thread.
Let's say reddit decides to pay Comcast to prioritize its data and simultaneously throttle any other rival blog sites and now when you try to use tigerdroppings.com it take 30 minutes to load a page, but you can go to reddit and every page loads in an instant.
You fricking pussy.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to Pilot Tiger
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ISPs could restrict access to foxnews.com if they wanted to
yay freedom
It's a private company. NN is the same as forcing the baker to bake a cake for the gay couple.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to stout
I highly doubt they lobbied so hard to repeal NN knowing the end result is to break up their monopolies
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:34 pm to Flame Salamander
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No more free porn sites or alt news sites.
Doesn't affect me. I take what I want.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:35 pm to stout
A free market will spur innovation. None of these dire predictions will be true in a few years because everything will be different. Who knows what the internet will be?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:35 pm to TigerFred
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I guess I need to understand this better.
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Without NN, they have the ability to decide which companies and sites can operate at which speeds without any input or check from the end user aka the consumer.
So, Comcast could partner with Netflix and allow Netflix to run at ultra high speed unlimited on their network and then slowdown or even block Hulu and Amazon. The end users in the markets dominated by Comcast have no option but to use Netflix and the free market doesn't exist.
It sounds like this affects the cord cutters more than anyone.
Ok, how bout this
It's Amazon Prime Day and the gigantic black rotating dildo that you've had your eye on for a month is 75% off
You fire up your laptop, type in amazon.com only to be redirected to a page that says. "Amazon is not available on our network, please enjoy Walmart.com instead"
No dildo for you
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:35 pm to bconne1
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Then I guess I’d go to another site instead acting like whiny bitch on this thread.
And you have the stones to call someone else a pussy after saying you'd take your ball and go home.
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