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re: Net Neutrality LIVE Vote • OFFICIAL RESULTS • Neutrality is Abolished
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:17 pm to Pectus
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:17 pm to Pectus
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But stout, isn't that pay scale already present for a lot of accounts?
I pay more to use more bandwidth.
You pay for faster speeds. Bandwidth and speed are not 100% the same thing
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Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:18 pm to Pilot Tiger
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are people suggesting it is? no
I'm beginning to think that reading is a specialized skill on this board.
YES that is exactly what that poster and another were suggesting.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:18 pm to LSU316
It makes it a standard necessity of modern society, you simple minded frick. I'm sure you think that clean water isn't an "inalienable" right either, but a modern society doesn't deliberately try to restrict access to the means necessary to survive in the name of phony freedom.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:18 pm to stout
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keep lanes open for high usage people that want to pay for that usage instead of bandwidth being clogged by people torrenting Frozen in 4K even though they still have a 1080p TV.
The shitty ISP could upgrade its infastructure to accommodate its customers needs for faster internet and larger data usage instead of lobbying to just shut down anything that strains its archaic infastructure.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:18 pm to TigerFred
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Maybe I'm missing something on this deal.
The way I understand it, with Net Neutrality everyone paid the same price no matter of the data used. Without Net Neutrality the ISP's can charge by the amount of data used.
So if I understand it correctly, person A uses 500 Gb a month and person B uses 1Gb month. Without Net Neutrality Person A can be charged more than person B for their monthly usage.
Incorrect
NN never stopped an ISP from offering packages to their customers based on how much data they use.
NN protected customers from experiencing restrictions in what they can access
NN declared the internet to be a utility rather than a collection of privately owned networks
With this repeal, ISP's can provide preferential speeds and access to their own media and cutout competition by throttling/blocking their customers
The NN repeal will make it difficult for startups and will impede free market conditions
This post was edited on 12/14/17 at 1:31 pm
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:19 pm to 50_Tiger
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Cannot disagree with anything that you've said.
However, there is technology being developed that will require less wired backhaul when it comes to broadcasting.
Yep. And if and when that becomes prevalent allowing competition to enter markets, I'm all for "deregulation". We're just not at that point yet
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:20 pm to Tigeralum2008
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The NN repeal will make it difficult for startups and will impede free market conditions
But MAGA, amirite?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:20 pm to LSU316
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YES that is exactly what that poster and another were suggesting.
Can you link me to any post anywhere on this site where someone claimed the internet was an inalienable human right?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:20 pm to rocket31
Well this sucks. It’s been real, TD.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:20 pm to rocket31
Gotta love party politics
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:21 pm to 25 Point Lead
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Yep. And if and when that becomes prevalent allowing competition to enter markets, I'm all for "deregulation". We're just not at that point yet
I can live with that argument for NN.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:21 pm to Breesus
PG 2
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:21 pm to Breesus
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The shitty ISP could upgrade its infastructure to accommodate its customers needs for faster internet and larger data usage
Would that make bandwidth unlimited?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:21 pm to LSU316
quote:you're being deliberately obtuse
I'm beginning to think that reading is a specialized skill on this board. YES that is exactly what that poster and another were suggesting.
Asking that the internet be treated similarly to things that have become basic human necessities like electricity is not the same thing as thinking it should be codified in our constitution as a basic inalienable right.
don't be ridiculous
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:22 pm to TH03
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Gotta love party politics
Are you talking about the Party line vote in the FCC to repeal NN or are you talking about posters in this thread supporting the repeal of NN because of which party they support......or both?
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:22 pm to stout
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Would that make bandwidth unlimited?
Did I say it would?
They can certainly upgrade their infrastructure to improve larger bandwidth usage.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:23 pm to TigerFred
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I view this like electric companies. Texas is deregulated and the competition for your business is good.
There is a strong case that deregulation was not a good idea. Both for prices and reliability. But that is a different rabbit hole to go down sometime.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:23 pm to Breesus
I guess I need to understand this better.
It sounds like this affects the cord cutters more than anyone.
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Without NN, they have the ability to decide which companies and sites can operate at which speeds without any input or check from the end user aka the consumer.
So, Comcast could partner with Netflix and allow Netflix to run at ultra high speed unlimited on their network and then slowdown or even block Hulu and Amazon. The end users in the markets dominated by Comcast have no option but to use Netflix and the free market doesn't exist.
It sounds like this affects the cord cutters more than anyone.
Posted on 12/14/17 at 1:23 pm to TH03
quote:This is pretty much what it comes down to and it's done at our expense
Gotta love party politics
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