re: Nashville School Shooting

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Unless I'm mistaken, that's not how budgets work.

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It's not, it just pisses me off what we could've done with that money

I think it's approaching $100 billion

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My issue is that red flag laws of any kind will be weaponized politically. Guaranteed.

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Sadly, this is true.

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But that has nothing to do with preventing shootings

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I disagree. People who are properly trained and educated on firearms aren't generally the ones out shooting other people. It isn't an all-encompassing solution, but it's one thing I'm willing to roll with so long as the government stays the frick out of it.

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What legislation do you propose that will address fricked up mental healthcare that would prevent these school shootings?

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I think true mental healthcare in our society should be a priority. I have a strong disdain for government and allowing them powers not directly given to them, but I do believe state and locally we should have funded screenings for our youth and provide additional care for those who show signs of mental illness and disease. I believe based on the severity of those mental diseases the appropriate treatment as ascribed by a licensed non-state employed physician should be used. I also think that if you are getting treatment you should not be allowed to obtain a firearm. This will have to have oversight and obviously will not be free, but this would address a lot of the issues we have in this country, not just with mental health, but also drug use. It is paid for by government programs, but carried out by third parties. If you cheat the system to get access to treatment or to turn away treatment that should be illegal and grounds for fines and loss of license to operate. It's more power even if checks and balances are put in place than I particularly care to give the government, but it addresses severe issues within our society that only appear to be getting worse with our current approach and system. It could even be as simple as mandatory screenings for individuals during developmental years and providing medicare benefits for treatment for those diagnosed for the treatments. I think a big problem now is a lot of middle income families that don't qualify for medicare cannot afford the treatments, or young adults coming off their parents insurance can not afford it on their own and in turn we have millions of mentally ill people walking amongst us either untreated or self medicating until they snap, whether it be turning into a vagrant shiteing on the sidewalk, or killing innocent children for 'their rights to be heard'.

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I think it's approaching $100 billion

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Meh. It is just money. Print some more. It doesn't mean anything anymore anyway.

We're dealing with national debt numbers that are incomprehensible to most everyone. We aren't too far away from having to make up new numbers/words to track our debt.

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I disagree. People who are properly trained and educated on firearms aren't generally the ones out shooting other people. It isn't an all-encompassing solution, but it's one thing I'm willing to roll with so long as the government stays the frick out of it.

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fully agree. teaching people about guns is almost all upside. and like you said, the types of people who shoot up elementary schools arent the ones that are going to be the ones getting educated on firearms.

but keeping the federal government's tentacles out of it would be a tall order. there would be a line of politicians of both flavors a mile long waiting to get in on it.

Appreciate the thoughtful response. As with an idea, I could poke holes, but I like the process of thinking through legitimately proposed solutions without immediately shooting them down so I’ll refrain from any constructive criticism for now.

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Chicago is a mess. But Chicago has a different issue than the mass shooting issue.

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Horse. shite.

Have a couple guys pull up to a building and open fire, injuring 8 or 10 and killing a couple kids in the process. Not a fricking peep from anyone.

Have someone else pull up to a building in a different part of town, go in and open fire, injuring 8 or 10 and killing a few kids and people start using it as a political weapon and start banging the drum for new laws.

One is convenient because it pulls at the heart strings and brings out the "thoughts and prayers". The other has no political value because literally no one, outside of those directly impacted, can be bothered to give a shite.

There is no difference between the two, other than the community's reaction.

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I'm talking about educating the youth in this country. There's a curiosity and fascination with the unknown that could be easily mitigated with positive exposure.

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Hunter's Safety courses were mandatory in many schools even up to the early to mid 90's. Then they got rid of them because they didn't want children "learning about guns" at school.