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re: Nashville School Shooting

Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45878 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:57 am to


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6 people in a school were just murdered in a repeat situation that has continuously plagued our society.


Continuously plagued our society? You mean our society that had much easier access to firearms, yet school shootings were unheard of until 30 years ago? That society?


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Our politicians, who are paid by the NRA mind you


You hare such a fricking progressive shill, parroting the talking points like a good little useful idiot while either purposefully or through sheer stupidity ignoring any facts contrary to your talking points.

Not one of you idiots ever cares to address why school shootings are a very modern trend.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298316 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:57 am to
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lack of investment on the south/west sides of Chicago.


Geez, I wonder why business people wouldn't want businesses in high crime areas.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87248 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:58 am to
He knows it's complete trash

How many gun culture people commit these crimes? How many are borne from enthusiasts from Arcom? That's right, zero.

The idea that but for Daniel Defense advertising cool gun products the deranged trans person wouldn't have shot some kids on the basis of "trans genocide" is beyond parody.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45878 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:58 am to
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Explain why mass school shootings weren’t a thing 40-50 years ago when gun laws were even less restrictive than they are today. I’ll wait.


I've posted this multiple times in this thread. And I have yet to have a person who is constantly beating the gun control drum have any type of actual response. They don't want to address it, because it completely blows up their narrative.
Posted by tigafan4life
Member since Dec 2006
50970 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:59 am to
I mean chicago is a mess cuz there are no fathers in the homes. How much more money needs to be thrown at inner cities to make them act like civil humans to each other? No personal responsibility again. It’s always someone else’s fault.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 11:00 am
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
65253 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:59 am to
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They absolutely are. Most are too fricking socially retarded to realize the damage they are doing.

Those at the top are not that stupid
Yep. Soros DA's are a perfect example. They aren't letting hardcore felons go free for 'social justice' and the exploding crime rates in those districts are a desired outcome. They want to foment chaos. They've said so.
This post was edited on 3/28/23 at 11:10 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
27424 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:59 am to
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Not one of you idiots ever cares to address why school shootings are a very modern trend.


You guys love to label me a progressive and I've said more than once why this is happening in this very thread and others. So either I'm not a progressive or you're just flat out wrong.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:59 am to
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common sense approaches




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Federal gun registry.
Federal red flag laws - which recently passed.
Federal firearm training
Changing industry immunities


Are you capable of detailing what any of these measures look like or even how they will help?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54853 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 10:59 am to
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Federal firearm training
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Changing industry immunities
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Federal gun registry.
these seem like partisan wish list items unrelated to stopping or slowing the school shooting issue. Educate me if I’m missing what these items would do to help prevent any of the school shootings of the last 30 years.
Posted by Pettifogger
I don't really care, Margaret
Member since Feb 2012
87248 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:00 am to
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I mean chicago is a mess cuz there are no fathers in the homes. How much money more needs to be thrown at inner cities to make them act like civil humans to each other? No personal responsibility again. It’s always someone else’s fault.



Nah dude if only they'd spend 10 million on a community center and library and a Target, these problems would go away
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8751 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:00 am to
they will never answer it. they have no answer. they might try to throw some vague insistence that we are a less tolerant society now which driving people to violence, but that doesnt withstand even the lightest scrutiny.
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20098 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:00 am to
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Chicago is a mess. But Chicago has a different issue than the mass shooting issue. Chicago’s issues are rooted in gang violence, gang culture, lack of investment on the south/west sides of Chicago. Never said Chicago doesn’t have a problem. But keep deflecting.


If they put everyone in possession of a stolen gun, guilty of stealing a gun, guilty of selling a stolen gun, or possessing ANY gun in the act of ANY crime in a labor camp in West Texas for 20 years, Chicago would start to clean up.

Posted by GeauxBall
Member since Apr 2019
605 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:01 am to
How's those drug laws working out? Can you tell me how you will stop criminals from getting guns when you can't stop criminals from getting and selling drugs?
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
20098 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:02 am to
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and a Target


They had a Target. It got looted.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
11427 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:04 am to
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ChiGator
Tell us how all this legislation on firearms is working in the city you used in your username? These aren't NRA members, or responsible gun owners carrying out these shootings, or most shootings. The fact you immediately go to talking points going after the most minuet percentage is the problem. You want to blame inanimate objects and people who disagree with you politically, just like the bought and paid for politicians want you to, instead of addressing the issue. We have sick fricks walking amongst us who do not get the medical help they need, not want but need. Here's some stats for you.

54% of gun deaths are suicides. Of the 46% of gun deaths classified as homicide. Of that 46%, 3% were unintentional. The 43% are what we are discussing here. Of that 43%, less than 13% of guns were legally obtained. Of that 43% rifles were only used in 3% of the homicides. So on avg in the US per FBI crime data legislation will only address 5.59% of firearm homicides. The gun that everyone wants to eliminate legally obtained makes up 0.17% of firearm homicides on avg in the US. I can guarantee being harder on gun crime and criminals committing crimes with guns, and addressing our fricked up mental healthcare and coddling of the mentally ill will do more than address 0.17% of these deaths.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45878 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:06 am to
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I can guarantee being harder on gun crime and criminals committing crimes with guns, and addressing our fricked up mental healthcare and coddling of the mentally ill will do more than address 0.17% of these deaths.



This is hard. Banning scary Assault-Rifle 15 military grade guns is an easy stroke of an executive order.

Now when nothing changes, you just go down the line banning the next scary thing, and that leaves you plenty of time to embezzle taxpayer dollars.
Posted by LSUGent
Member since Jun 2011
3269 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:07 am to
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Explain why mass school shootings weren’t a thing 40-50 years ago when gun laws were even less restrictive than they are today. I’ll wait.


Hey Chigator…. Still waiting.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14106 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:08 am to
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Some common sense approaches to start:
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Federal gun registry.
Literally nothing but a means to a beginning of a confiscation scheme. The federal government knowing the shooter yesterday owned 3 firearms wouldn't have stopped them from using them to kill kids.
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Federal red flag laws - which recently passed.
These have never been shown to do anything. Hell, most high profile shooters are already known to law enforcement.
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Federal firearm training
So making people MORE competent at shooting is going to lessen the number of people killed?
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Changing industry immunities
This is meaningless politi-speak for "sue the gun industry out of existence". Firearms manufacturers are protected from frivolous lawsuits in cases where the products functioned exactly as intended. They're still subject to suits for faulty products, they just can't be sued into bankruptcy for criminal misuse of their product. Similarly, Ford can't be sued for some idiot using an SUV to run over people at a parade.
Posted by TCO
Member since Jul 2022
3261 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:08 am to
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Hey Chigator…. Still waiting.


Copycat killings are nothing new. The internet and TV make it 10x worse.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
45878 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 11:09 am to
I'd like for him to explain why school shootings didn't become prevalent until...ohh...a bit after 1990? You know, that year they passed the Gun Free School Zones Act.

I mean, there's no way it had anything to do with it...guaranteeing a target rich environment with no fear of any other guns on the premises.

Nope. Nothing to see there.
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