re: Nashville School Shooting

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Also, stop telling little boys that it's always a bad thing to use your fists sometimes.

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The same people that tell us abstinence is impossible, want zero-tolerance laws that criminalize any fighting whatsoever, and compete isolation of kids from guns.

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Not really. They just switched weapons.

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Show me your stats on school deaths in England.

I’ll wait.

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As with an idea, I could poke holes, but I like the process of thinking through legitimately proposed solutions without immediately shooting them down so I’ll refrain from any constructive criticism for now.

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I wholly agree, there are issues with it, and there would need to be very hard guardrails to keep it from being politicized. I do believe expansion of medicare to cover these costs for a larger percentage would help a lot without giving up too much control. Red flags that increased cooling off periods when trying to legally obtain a firearm for anyone receiving treatment or with a previous diagnosis would be another option. It's not a simple issue, one way or another. I just think the 0.17% achieved by burning every rifle tomorrow and not selling anymore would be dwarfed by what could be achieved with current firearm laws in tact, but by expanding medicare for mental healthcare of more of our populous and stiffer charges and punishment for illegal weapon possession.

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Agree. I guess a primary point of mine is that there isn’t a clear or easy answer. Because of that, people, politicians, etc. engage in nasty rhetoric toward those with opposing political views for not being able to provide the answer. Liberals latch on to guns as THE issue…conservatives push back with angry rhetoric. Conservatives often latch on to social political issues (lgbtq, etc) of the offender but offer little in way of helpful societal solutions that aren’t also Constitutionally problematic. Trying to win a political position or protect one becomes the focus and nothing changes.

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This is all really well put and summarizes the problem.

This thread has great examples of both and just leaves me feeling kinda hopeless in general.

When people are glossing over 9-year-olds being shot to death in school so they can run to the internet and play identity politics, what chance do we have?

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The doctors who prescribed this girl in Nashville massive amounts of testosterone should be charged with 6 counts of manslaughter!

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Until you make parents and/or doctors liable, it will not change.

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Whatever England did worked.

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I think gun legislation could work in a society that is more homogenous (Australia for example). Maybe it doesn't even have to be fully racially homogenous, but in values. We're not at that point. I have no doubt if we had a magic button to make guns disappear we would have less mass casualty events. Stabbings would go up, and other methods of attacking, but no doubt a gun makes it easier to do more damage quickly. I'm not pro gun legislation fwiw.

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Whatever England did worked.

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Show me that data and define what you mean by "worked."

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Some common sense approaches to start:

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You people keep using this phrase.. But what you keep proposing isn't common sense it's control...

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Federal gun registry.

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Hahahaha...Go frick Yourself..

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I think gun legislation could work in a society that is more homogenous (Australia for example). Maybe it doesn't even have to be fully racially homogenous, but in values. We're not at that point.

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this guy gets it.

We are a nation of extremely violent people. All races, all walks of life.

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TCOquote:What legislation do you propose Whatever England did worked. I’m a gun owner btw. Before you start calling me a soy-boy.

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Delta is ready when you are GTFO