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re: Napoleon Bonaparte's win-loss record is a sight to behold...
Posted on 12/10/23 at 9:21 pm to RollTide1987
Posted on 12/10/23 at 9:21 pm to RollTide1987
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The entirety of the Army of Italy was barefoot when he took command of it in March 1796. It didn't stop him from conquering all of northern Italy.

Posted on 12/11/23 at 2:06 am to RollTide1987
Napoleon wasn’t in the SEC….
Posted on 12/11/23 at 4:51 am to BarCo49
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Napoleon Bonaparte never directly fought against Americans during his military career.
And if he had it would have been disastrous for the U.S. Army as we couldn't even launch a successful invasion of Canada during the War of 1812. Not to mention the population of the United States was little more than seven million during this period while the population of France all by itself was something like 30 million. That's not even counting her allies who fought alongside them during the Napoleonic Wars.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:26 am to Clark14
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Napoleon wasn’t in the SEC….
South European Conference?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:59 am to TheHarahanian
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Lee did a lot with a little.
He used his resources poorly in certain respects. He fought the wrong type of war considering the political objectives.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:05 am to RollTide1987
Khalid ibn Walid and I think Takeda Shingen are two other generals who had lopsided win-loss records. Both competed against groups with more resources and both were possibly undefeated in battle.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:12 am to RollTide1987
Lee wasnt in the same stratosphere as Napoleon. Napoleon would have most definitely won the South independence. Napoleon ultimately had to be defeated by his enemies running away and destroying their own lands.
Lee and the South took a completely wrong approach to secure Southern independence. A few skilled and motivated men infiltrating northern cities and wrecking shop would have terrified DC. South chose to be honorable and lose
Lee and the South took a completely wrong approach to secure Southern independence. A few skilled and motivated men infiltrating northern cities and wrecking shop would have terrified DC. South chose to be honorable and lose
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:33 am to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:33 am to RollTide1987
Yeah but Napoleon played in the ACC. He didn’t have to deal with the grind of the SEC, like Lee.
Napoleon would have been shut out of the the playoffs.
Napoleon would have been shut out of the the playoffs.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:44 am to Ten Bears
Lee played a home schedule and when he ventured away---
Antietam and Gettysburg It did not go well
It was about slavery by the way
Antietam and Gettysburg It did not go well
It was about slavery by the way
Posted on 12/11/23 at 8:53 am to RollTide1987
Can I be a big fan of both men?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:11 am to RollTide1987
We didn't have a professional army.
he did and probably the best one in the world at that.
Someone questioned my statement about Caesar not making Napoleon's mistakes. Um, Caesar did not make mistakes and his battles were tactical brilliance in action.
he did and probably the best one in the world at that.
Someone questioned my statement about Caesar not making Napoleon's mistakes. Um, Caesar did not make mistakes and his battles were tactical brilliance in action.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:15 am to RollTide1987
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Napoleon Bonaparte's win-loss record is a sight to behold..
You cannot stop me. I spend 30,000 men a month
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The man was a true military genius who ran circles around just about every single country/general he came across.
Or he realized a nation at war will overcome small but elite mercenary groups by simply throwing unending columns at them
Posted on 12/11/23 at 9:16 am to msudawg1200
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Lee was Vandy vs Bama/Georgia
Lee was Vandy vs. Bama/Georgia where a victory was covering the 30 point spread. If Vandy has the lead at halftime and then gets blown out by 40 points at the end, what credit do they deserve? Nothing.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 4:49 pm to beerJeep
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Or he realized a nation at war will overcome small but elite mercenary groups by simply throwing unending columns at them
You do realize he was outnumbered in most of the campaigns he fought, don’t you?
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:04 pm to RollTide1987
How many men did Napoleon lose vs Lee? Would be interested in those numbers.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:15 pm to geauxbrown
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How many men did Napoleon lose vs Lee? Would be interested in those numbers.
Well Robert E. Lee commanded armies in 22 battles compared to Napoleon Bonaparte’s 82. The size of the armies involved in the Napoleonic Wars were often much larger than those in the American Civil War due to mass conscription in Europe, thus making the battles far larger and bloodier.
For instance, the bloodiest single day of battle in the American Civil War was Antietam Creek. That day saw some 22,700 Americans fall in combat. Compare that to the Battle of Borodino, where an estimated 74,000 French and Russians fell in a single day’s worth of combat.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:27 pm to RollTide1987
Just stopped by to say this thread has been fascinating keep it up.
Also, although not the best field general Alexander the Greats Opis Mutiny speech is simply amazing every time I hear it.
Also, although not the best field general Alexander the Greats Opis Mutiny speech is simply amazing every time I hear it.
Posted on 12/11/23 at 6:31 pm to RollTide1987
Now do Robert E. Lee's budget vs Napoleon's
Posted on 12/11/23 at 7:40 pm to Usurp
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Now do Robert E. Lee's budget vs Napoleon's
Once again...you have to compare Lee to what he was up against to Napoleon with what he was up against. Lee's odds were long, it is very true, but you are fooling yourself if you think Napoleon's odds weren't even longer.
Robert E. Lee had to contend with half (albeit the industrialized half) of the United States. Whereas Napoleon was fighting Europe's leading powers (Great Britain, Russia, Prussia, Austria, and Spain), often all at the same time. Many times throughout the Napoleonic Wars he would have multiple nations throwing multiple armies at his borders. Many times he would defeat them all in spectacular fashion.
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