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Napoleon Bonaparte's win-loss record is a sight to behold...
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:27 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:27 pm
Before I get into it, I first want to show off the win-loss record of another famous general - an American - named Robert E. Lee. Widely considered by many people on this board to be the greatest general this country ever produced, here is what Lee's service record looked like in command of armies during the American Civil War:
Victories
Gaines' Mill
Second Manassas
Fredericksburg
Chancellorsville
Cold Harbor
Cumberland Church
Defeats
Cheat Mountain
Beaver Dame Creek
Malvern Hill
South Mountain
Gettysburg
White Oak Road
Third Petersburg
Appomattox Court House
Draw/Inconclusive/Stalemate
Oak Grove
Glendale
Antietam Creek
Mine Run
The Wilderness
Spotsylvania Court House
North Anna River
Second Petersburg
So when you add up all the battles Robert E. Lee was both present and in command for, his battlefield record comes out to 6-8-8 (.454). If this is the greatest general in American history then we certainly have little to brag about.
Compare that to Robert E. Lee's idol, the Corsican Napoleon Bonaparte. His record as a commanding general is unmatched in the annals of history:
Victories
Siege of Toulon
Saorgio
First Dego
13 Vendémiaire
Montenotte
Millesimo
Second Dego
Ceva
Mondovì
Fombio
Lodi
Borghetto
Siege of Mantua
Lonato
Castiglione
Rovereto
First Bassano
San Giorgio
Arcole
Rivoli
La Favorite
Valvasone
Tarvis
Malta
Alexandria
Shubra Khit
Pyramids
Revolt of Cairo
Siege of El Arish
Siege of Jaffa
Mount Tabor
Abukir
Turbigo
Siege of Fort Bard
Marengo
Ulm
Austerlitz
Jena
Czarnowo
Eylau
Friedland
Somosierra
Madrid
Teugen-Hausen
Abensberg
Landshut
Eckmühl
Ratisbon
Wagram
Vitebsk
Smolensk
Shevardino
Borodino
Lützen
Bautzen
Reichenbach
Dresden
Hanau
Brienne
Champaubert
Montmirail
Chateau-Thierry
Vauchamps
Mormant
Montereau
Berry-au-Bac
Craonne
Reims
Saint-Dizier
Ligny
Defeats
Second Bessano
Caldiero
Acre
Aspern-Essling
Krasnoi
Berezina
Leipzig
La Rothière
Laon
Arcis-sur-Aube
Waterloo
In comparison to Lee, Napoleon had a win-loss record of 70-11 (.864). The man was a true military genius who ran circles around just about every single country/general he came across. The only man who rivaled him during that era was the man who ultimately defeated him, Sir Arthur Wellesley - the Duke of Wellington. Wellington made his reputation fighting Napoleon's marshals in Spain and Portugal and finished with a perfect 31-0 record on the battlefield.
Victories
Gaines' Mill
Second Manassas
Fredericksburg
Chancellorsville
Cold Harbor
Cumberland Church
Defeats
Cheat Mountain
Beaver Dame Creek
Malvern Hill
South Mountain
Gettysburg
White Oak Road
Third Petersburg
Appomattox Court House
Draw/Inconclusive/Stalemate
Oak Grove
Glendale
Antietam Creek
Mine Run
The Wilderness
Spotsylvania Court House
North Anna River
Second Petersburg
So when you add up all the battles Robert E. Lee was both present and in command for, his battlefield record comes out to 6-8-8 (.454). If this is the greatest general in American history then we certainly have little to brag about.
Compare that to Robert E. Lee's idol, the Corsican Napoleon Bonaparte. His record as a commanding general is unmatched in the annals of history:
Victories
Siege of Toulon
Saorgio
First Dego
13 Vendémiaire
Montenotte
Millesimo
Second Dego
Ceva
Mondovì
Fombio
Lodi
Borghetto
Siege of Mantua
Lonato
Castiglione
Rovereto
First Bassano
San Giorgio
Arcole
Rivoli
La Favorite
Valvasone
Tarvis
Malta
Alexandria
Shubra Khit
Pyramids
Revolt of Cairo
Siege of El Arish
Siege of Jaffa
Mount Tabor
Abukir
Turbigo
Siege of Fort Bard
Marengo
Ulm
Austerlitz
Jena
Czarnowo
Eylau
Friedland
Somosierra
Madrid
Teugen-Hausen
Abensberg
Landshut
Eckmühl
Ratisbon
Wagram
Vitebsk
Smolensk
Shevardino
Borodino
Lützen
Bautzen
Reichenbach
Dresden
Hanau
Brienne
Champaubert
Montmirail
Chateau-Thierry
Vauchamps
Mormant
Montereau
Berry-au-Bac
Craonne
Reims
Saint-Dizier
Ligny
Defeats
Second Bessano
Caldiero
Acre
Aspern-Essling
Krasnoi
Berezina
Leipzig
La Rothière
Laon
Arcis-sur-Aube
Waterloo
In comparison to Lee, Napoleon had a win-loss record of 70-11 (.864). The man was a true military genius who ran circles around just about every single country/general he came across. The only man who rivaled him during that era was the man who ultimately defeated him, Sir Arthur Wellesley - the Duke of Wellington. Wellington made his reputation fighting Napoleon's marshals in Spain and Portugal and finished with a perfect 31-0 record on the battlefield.
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Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:28 pm to RollTide1987
Compare the resources each had to work with, against the enemy’s.
Lee did a lot with a little.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:29 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
Waterloo
Too soon
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:31 pm to RollTide1987
Of course an Alabama fan would think it's impressive to dominate lesser competition with way more resources and advantages.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:32 pm to RollTide1987
He may have won in Egypt, but the English sank his ships. The English should have left him there.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:33 pm to TheHarahanian
quote:
Compare the resources each had to work with, against the enemy’s.
I mean...Napoleon was consistently at war with Great Britain, Austria, Prussia, and Russia - all at the same time.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:33 pm to RollTide1987
Do you even remotely understand the differences in resources and sheer numbers of soldiers?!
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:35 pm to RollTide1987
Do you have the interest to summarize Washington, Patton, and MacArthur?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:37 pm to molsusports
Patton and MacArthur are much more difficult to summarize because as you get closer to the modern era, battles become more about logistics than they do tactics and strategy. George Washington and Napoleon Bonaparte commanded armies in an era where they could see the entire battlefield from their headquarters. Patton and MacArthur commanded forces that were spread out over hundreds of miles.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:38 pm to RollTide1987
Wasn’t there an Alexander guy who was undefeated?
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:39 pm to RollTide1987
You do understand the reason they formed an alliance was to match the resources Napoleon had at his disposal? Russia’s military was abysmal, the British had to transport their resources by ship with a relatively small professional army, and Prussia was a loose conglomerate of kingdom like states.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:39 pm to Rip Torn
quote:
sheer numbers of soldiers
This is the biggest factor.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:40 pm to RollTide1987
Napoleon was a thug POS
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:40 pm to Rip Torn
quote:
Do you even remotely understand the differences in resources and sheer numbers of soldiers?!
OP pointed out that Napoleon's enemies were Great Britain, the Russian Empire, the Holy Roman Empire (Austria) AND Prussia.
PS Robert E. Lee would NEVER compare himself to Napoleon. He was a wise man because he knew that there was no comparison.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:41 pm to Rip Torn
quote:
You do understand the reason they formed an alliance was to match the resources Napoleon had at his disposal? Russia’s military was abysmal, the British had to transport their resources by ship with a relatively small professional army, and Prussia was a loose conglomerate of kingdom like states.
Hmmm. I don't think so. Read more.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:42 pm to Rip Torn
quote:
You do understand the reason they formed an alliance was to match the resources Napoleon had at his disposal?
More complicated than that. However, when the armies met in the field they were of equal sizes. And Napoleon's victories were often so lopsided and so complete that these countries would have to sue for peace after only one or two battles.
This post was edited on 12/10/23 at 12:43 pm
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:43 pm to Decker
quote:
Wasn’t there an Alexander guy who was undefeated?
Gimme Genghis Khan.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:43 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
Compare that to Robert E. Lee's idol, the Corsican Napoleon Bonaparte. His record as a commanding general is unmatched in the annals of history:
Victories
Siege of Toulon
Saorgio
First Dego
13 Vendémiaire
Montenotte
Millesimo
Second Dego
Ceva
Mondovì
Fombio
Lodi
Borghetto
Siege of Mantua
Lonato
Castiglione
Rovereto
First Bassano
San Giorgio
Arcole
Rivoli
La Favorite
Valvasone
Tarvis
Malta
Alexandria
Shubra Khit
Pyramids
Revolt of Cairo
Siege of El Arish
Siege of Jaffa
Mount Tabor
Abukir
Turbigo
Siege of Fort Bard
Marengo
Ulm
Austerlitz
Jena
Czarnowo
Eylau
Friedland
Somosierra
Madrid
Teugen-Hausen
Abensberg
Landshut
Eckmühl
Ratisbon
Wagram
Vitebsk
Smolensk
Shevardino
Borodino
Lützen
Bautzen
Reichenbach
Dresden
Hanau
Brienne
Champaubert
Montmirail
Chateau-Thierry
Vauchamps
Mormant
Montereau
Berry-au-Bac
Craonne
Reims
Saint-Dizier
Ligny
Defeats
Second Bessano
Caldiero
Acre
Aspern-Essling
Krasnoi
Berezina
Leipzig
La Rothière
Laon
Arcis-sur-Aube
Waterloo
That sawed off little warmonger really got around
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:47 pm to RollTide1987
quote:
Napoleon had a win-loss record of 70-11
You can add a W for the sale of the Louisiana Purchase. The US took a beating that day.
Posted on 12/10/23 at 12:48 pm to RollTide1987
What about strength of schedule?
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